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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"Wake up smell the coffee its going to happen
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| RU was always dead and buried in nsw and queensland.....
The rebels lost 43 nil against the waratahs so it will die in melbourne too , they will not win a game all yr IMO.
Storm maybe cheats,but they are a world class team.And I bet they'll be in the GF this yr,so they stick up the NRL after last season fiasco.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"what NZ does in the union WC is irrelevant, thats short term
a 2nd NZ NRL side would be more important
if our next TV deal is a blockbuster well be able to raid the ranks of union players at will.
the S15 will be decimated'"
A 2nd NZ NRL club in Wellington will be a huge blow for union in NZ.
A NRL club in Perth will be a huge blow for AFL in the TV viewers battle.
David Gallop and the NRL have the opportunity to put these lesser codes to the sword and i hope they do it. these lesser codes have tried every dirty trick possible to try and destroy us, as far as i am concered its pay back time now.
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"A 2nd NZ NRL club in Wellington will be a huge blow for union in NZ.
A NRL club in Perth will be a huge blow for AFL in the TV viewers battle.
David Gallop and the NRL have the opportunity to put these lesser codes to the sword and i hope they do it. these lesser codes have tried every dirty trick possible to try and destroy us, as far as i am concered its pay back time now.'"
the funny thing was when the ARU had $50 million to spend, taking RL on and it wasted $35 million of it in 3 years, at the same time its crowds and ratings collapsed.
the problem with union is you just cant polish a t**d.
we are the rugby of the fututre
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| why is eden park empty for the opening of the Stupud 15 season?
man union gets worse every year, in the 10 mins its been on its all been kicking
aerial ping pong
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| What some posters on here struggle to understand is the money in union is in the international game - club RU has never been that well supported.
RL is supposedly the biggest gig in Australia - if this is so could someone explain why attendances for RU international dwarf those of RL. In England where soccer is king England draw the biggest crowds of any national sporting side no matter who they play.
Whilst ever RU internationals continue to draw 70k+ on a very regular basis and TV is prepared to pay big bucks for the rights RU will always have sufficient funds for the game to progress and keep its best players regardless of the TV deal for the NRL.
RU has survived for nearly a century as an amateur sport - those who think that because the NRL getting a big TV deal will be the final nail in the coffin of RU are sadly mistaken.
On NZ do kids playing rugby want to be Dan Carter or Benji Marshall?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"why is eden park empty for the opening of the Stupud 15 season?
man union gets worse every year, in the 10 mins its been on its all been kicking
aerial ping pong'"
It will interesting to see how many crowds for week 1 of the NRL surpass the figure at Eden Park?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"
RL is supposedly the biggest gig in Australia - if this is so could someone explain why attendances for RU international dwarf those of RL. In England where soccer is king England draw the biggest crowds of any national sporting side no matter who they play.
?'" In OZ people only care about their local clubs.For some reason sadly when it comes to the international game people don't give two hoots about it.Since NZ has won the WC in 08 and the four nations last year things may change since we have someone that could match us.Now It's up to the poms to stand up and deliver for a change.
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| Go to ChCh. While the Canterbury Crusaders are famous the world over, I belive this is because of the Bronco factor if you will i.e 1 team town that has little to no competition. Bring in the South Island Bulls into the NRL (gutterfax should know that the Canterbury team in NZ League is called the Bulls)
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"What some posters on here struggle to understand is the money in union is in the international game - club RU has never been that well supported.
RL is supposedly the biggest gig in Australia - if this is so could someone explain why attendances for RU international dwarf those of RL. In England where soccer is king England draw the biggest crowds of any national sporting side no matter who they play.
Whilst ever RU internationals continue to draw 70k+ on a very regular basis and TV is prepared to pay big bucks for the rights RU will always have sufficient funds for the game to progress and keep its best players regardless of the TV deal for the NRL.
RU has survived for nearly a century as an amateur sport - those who think that because the NRL getting a big TV deal will be the final nail in the coffin of RU are sadly mistaken.
On NZ do kids playing rugby want to be Dan Carter or Benji Marshall?'"
Rah Rah in the 70's in Australia almost disappeared. We got belted by Tonga in one game from memory and they were still considered minnows.
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| Quote ="manly4ever"In OZ people only care about their local clubs.For some reason sadly when it comes to the international game people don't give two hoots about it.Since NZ has won the WC in 08 and the four nations last year things may change since we have someone that could match us.Now It's up to the poms to stand up and deliver for a change.'"
The brits don't have a big enough pool of players to ever really challenge at international level - its a minority sport played in a small area of a soccer obsessed country - add to that SL teams full of very average NRL players - e.g. Salford.
Very poor coaches such as McRae would prefer the easy life of not having to develop young talent preferring instead to rely on has been Bulldogs - and he wonders why his teams get a hammering
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| Quote ="Ant80"Go to ChCh. While the Canterbury Crusaders are famous the world over, I belive this is because of the Bronco factor if you will i.e 1 team town that has little to no competition. Bring in the South Island Bulls into the NRL (gutterfax should know that the Canterbury team in NZ League is called the Bulls)'"
The point is the strength of the clubs is unimportant to the overall strength of RU - RU is all about the international game end of
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"It will interesting to see how many crowds for week 1 of the NRL surpass the figure at Eden Park?'"
eden park didnt look this empty when benji was there leading the mighty kiwis for battle
looks like union in nz is declining quicker than id hoped for.
this crowd in canberra looks poor too
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| Quote ="manly4ever"In OZ people only care about their local clubs.For some reason sadly when it comes to the international game people don't give two hoots about it.Since NZ has won the WC in 08 and the four nations last year things may change since we have someone that could match us.Now It's up to the poms to stand up and deliver for a change.'"
dont forget the kangaroos kill the wallabies in terms of tv viewers
the best union test match rarely beats a normal friday night football game yet our tests will get around double the viewers
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"The brits don't have a big enough pool of players to ever really challenge at international level - its a minority sport played in a small area of a soccer obsessed country - add to that SL teams full of very average NRL players - e.g. Salford.
Very poor coaches such as McRae would prefer the easy life of not having to develop young talent preferring instead to rely on has been Bulldogs - and he wonders why his teams get a hammering'"
yeah shows your ingorance there
the brits for 60 yrs were dominant in int. RL
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"The point is the strength of the clubs is unimportant to the overall strength of RU - RU is all about the international game end of'"
good because without fans coming week to week the game will die.
in RL the club game is everything, its why we are such a strong sport
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| Quote ="dally messenger"dont forget the kangaroos kill the wallabies in terms of tv viewers
the best union test match rarely beats a normal friday night football game yet our tests will get around double the viewers'"
Yes I know about tv viewing we kill all.But he was talking about attendances.
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| Quote ="Ant80"Rah Rah in the 70's in Australia almost disappeared. We got belted by Tonga in one game from memory and they were still considered minnows.'"
But it is still going and regularly draws crowds for games against NZ in Australia that RL could only dream about.
The two sports have very different focusses and if you think because you get a big TV deal you will kill rugby union and their players will all come to RL and kids will not want to play for the all blacks you are in for a nasty shock.
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| Quote ="manly4ever"Yes I know about tv viewing we kill all.But he was talking about attendances.'"
he was only talking about attendances cause hes a troll and he picks the bit that makes union look good whilst ignoring where it looks bad like all trolls do
no one knows of the wallabies in australia unlike our boys
inglis, slater, smith, lockyer, thurston etc are household names
i doubt many people in australia can name a wallaby player off the top of their head
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| Quote ="dally messenger"yeah shows your ingorance there
the brits for 60 yrs were dominant in int. RL
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We are you talking about Dally we haven't beat Australia in a series for over 40 years - that is much more relevant than what happened before the second world war!!!
The amateur game in England - which is where all the young players come from is a fraction of the size it was 30 years ago - the pool of players is simply insufficient to funnel down to a side that has the quality to challenge the very best in the world.
Add to that the differentials in the intensity/quality of SL compared to the NRL it is men against boys.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"he was only talking about attendances cause hes a troll and he picks the bit that makes union look good whilst ignoring where it looks bad like all trolls do
no one knows of the wallabies in australia unlike our boys
inglis, slater, smith, lockyer, thurston etc are household names
i doubt many people in australia can name a wallaby player off the top of their head'" Since you have said that now,it's true i cant name any wallaby player either.And I'm not being selfish.I just don't hear of the wallabys no more,like we use too.
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| just to summarise our sitauation here :
Cumulative viewers each week in australia :
Union : 550,000
Rugby League :m 4.5 million
indeed our under 20s competition, the Toyota Cup, regularly beats the S15
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| Quote ="dally messenger"eden park didnt look this empty when benji was there leading the mighty kiwis for battle
looks like union in nz is declining quicker than id hoped for.
this crowd in canberra looks poor too'"
When the mighty RL Kiwis get attendances anywhere near the All Blacks come back crowing - it wont be anytime soon
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| Quote ="manly4ever"Since you have said that now,it's true i cant name any wallaby player either.And I'm not being selfish.I just don't hear of the wallabys no more,like we use too.'"
i used to read stuff that they would have fan days and the only players the kids wanted autographs were the league boys like dell, sailor and lote
do you know rocky elsom has captained the wallabies and he was a reserve grader at the bulldogs?
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