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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Would it be feasible or could we afford as a sport to build say a 50k stadium for the sole use of RL?'"
No.
Quote ="thepriestman85"Almost the RL equivalent of Twickenham in RU, Wimbledon in Tennis, Lord in Cricket or Wembley for Football?'"
Wimbledon is not in anyway equivalent to any of those other sports. And Lords is just one of several county grounds in both day-to-day use and for hosting internationals.
Quote ="thepriestman85"We are currently gypsies using all different stadiums for different events and the cost of that can’t be that cheap either can it?'"
Renting a stadium for a one off event is a lot cheaper than the cost of building and maintaining one. It also gives us greater flexibility, and the ability to play different stadium owners against each other so they cannot afford to over price themselves.
Quote ="thepriestman85"I’d love to see us get a proper base where we can build some history and have memorable club and international matches.'"
We have managed to create quite a lot of history without any trouble for the past hundred plus years. A new stadium is going to make that any better.
Quote ="thepriestman85"I guess once we have somewhere like that it could be used for other events such as Athletics & Concerts maybe?'"
Could? Maybe? It would need to be! No sport can afford to have a stadium sitting empty for around 360 days per year. This is the business model of the Twckenham's and Wembley's you seem to want to emulate.
Quote ="thepriestman85"Although the initial costs would be great wouldn’t it benefit RL in the long term?'"
No, the only benefit would be for people who seem to think owing a stadium is something to boast about. It would bring no practical benefits at all.
Quote ="thepriestman85"Is it a pipe dream tho?'"
Thankfully, yes.
Quote ="saint billy"Thats the one thing i don't think should ever change. The Challenge Cup final should always be at Wembley, its tradition and should stay that way.'"
No. The cup final should be held in places like Halifax, Leeds, and Cardiff, but not Wembley.
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| Quote ="YED79"Lets just ground share Twickers and call it the home of rugby'"
Burn him!
I prefer wembley any day
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| Quote ="mav"No, the only benefit would be for people who seem to think owing a stadium is something to boast about.'"
It is something to boast about if it works for the sport who own it. Can't see how it can't be?
I agree with the other points you made apart from this one and the CC final but imo world class stadiums like Twickenham are something to boast about since it was updated and the fact they fill it for all international games with tickets going for £85 each it must make them some revenue as well.
Also if your playing in a comp like the 6 nations it's a massive plus point if teams don't like the play their as it gives you and advantage doesn't it?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Burn him!
I prefer wembley any day'"
I prefer Mount Pleasant , best day out in RL
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| Its never ever going to happen and the RFL would mess up trying anyway.
Look at the RFL now, they admit Celtic Crusaders into Superleague, then you think good a local team for the Millenium weekend. But no we will change it and get everyone playing at Murrayfield instead.
For a stadium of 75000 you are talking a minimum of £120 million anyway, the RFL could cough up about 2 million, so the rest is just a pipe dream.
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| we have a national RL stadium.....wembley
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| Wembley is a weekend trip to most RL fans and always will be, who would want to spend the weekend in Manchester, Huddersfield or Wigan on an annual basis
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Tbf i've always thought of Wembley as our national stadium and i think they should house the Internationals there but is it really 10 years since we last played and international there? That’s appalling!'"
We've certainly not played any since it reopened. And we used to get good crowds. Unfortunately, in the interim, two many people seem to have adopted the RU/BBC insult of "a small regional sport" as fact.
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| Quote ="Starbug"What's up , the credit crunch biting , you after saving some train fare'"
- I've got work to pay for my trip up to the Saints game, as I'm going on to a conference in Harrogate.
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| Surely Huddersfield would be the natural choice?
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"It is something to boast about if it works for the sport who own it. Can't see how it can't be?'"
The point I was making though is there is nothing to gain by having something to boast about. It will be something for people on message boards only, it would have no value to the game or the RFL.
People do not follow or support sports on the basis of whether they own their own stadium. It will not make sponsors or TV companies pay more, it will not make casual sports fans take more notice.
Quote ="thepriestman85"Also if your playing in a comp like the 6 nations it's a massive plus point if teams don't like the play their as it gives you and advantage doesn't it?'"
That is nothing to do with who owns the stadium but simply home advantage of having tens of thousands of fans all supporting the same team.
It is also worth nothing than Italy, Germany, and Spain do not have national stadiums but their soccer teams have all been pretty successful.
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| Was there not talk a few years ago now when Leeds United were really in the mire (Premiership days with the £130million Debt) of the RFL buying Elland Road and moving its HQ there?
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| Wasnt Wembley designed with rugby league in mind aswell as football? that is our national home as much as it is the England football teams.
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| Quote ="mattj13"Wasnt Wembley designed with rugby league in mind aswell as football? that is our national home as much as it is the England football teams.'"
No it was designed with making money in mind , both for the people who designed/built it and for the people who run it
If it had been designed for sports fans it would have been in Birmingham at the NEC
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| Quote ="Starbug"No it was designed with making money in mind , both for the people who designed/built it and for the people who run it
If it had been designed for sports fans it would have been in Birmingham at the NEC'"
Playing in an exhibition hall?
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| Quote ="Brew"Was there not talk a few years ago now when Leeds United were really in the mire (Premiership days with the £130million Debt) of the RFL buying Elland Road and moving its HQ there?'"
I think Elland Road is owned by Leeds City Council (though I stand to be corrected on this). whether it was acquired before/after United's financial problems I'm not sure.
Either way, in the current financial climate there is no way RL can acquire a large stadium for its own use. It could saddle the Sport with a debt that potentially could bring the entire game to its knees.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Playing in an exhibition hall?'"
Hell of a big ' beer tent '
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Great idea
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Typical W1g4n Liverpool fan
Living in the past
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| Don't see the point in us getting a stadium as there are not enough games we could play there that would fill it. There is no point in moving games to smaller venues to accommodate.
Would a possible solution not be to maybe buy some shares in a stadium or set up deals that can get us a few games there a year? Rather than have a ground that won't be used at all. Play a few internationals there every year, possibly Championship finals, semi-finals and WCC there. 5 very different events at the "Home of the RFL". Would have to be a good stadium though, not something like Elland Road which is a dump.
Hopefully if Leeds United every get slightly good again and do eventually get this new ground they were on about years ago, the RFL could do a deal with them.
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| Quote ="BP1"I think Elland Road is owned by Leeds City Council (though I stand to be corrected on this). whether it was acquired before/after United's financial problems I'm not sure.
Either way, in the current financial climate there is no way RL can acquire a large stadium for its own use. It could saddle the Sport with a debt that potentially could bring the entire game to its knees.'"
From Wiki-
[i...Ridsdale, the figurehad of the PLC, resigned in March 2003, leaving his 'dream' in financial tatters and the PLC was soon to follow in March 2004.
Later that year, Elland Road was sold on a 25-year lease deal with a buy-back clause to raise the required funds to pay the latest instalment of a loan to Aston Villa shareholder and former Watford chairman Jack Petchey. It emerged on December 27, 2006 that the stadium had been sold to the British Virgin Islands-based Teak Trading Corporation Ltd. some 15 months before...[/i
So Leeds United dont own it and at one point did sell it.
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| a) location - North East Lancashire/North West Yorkshire/Huddersfield (the birthplace)
b) capacity - 60,000
c) type of stadium - All seated (mainly so it could incorporate other events i.e. bands etc), Sliding roof, Close up to pitch, Bowl style(keeps atmosphere in)
d) other marketable events/uses - Gigs etc
e) funding - Lottery?
or if the RFL have their way......
a) location - Southern Wales/South of France
b) Capacity - 500, 000
c) Type of Stadium - All open terracing, 2 miles away from the pitch
d) other marketable events/uses - Expansionist rallies/forums
e) funding - northern rock (or....we'll think about that later)
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| Quote ="RB"Our National Stadium shouldn't be in the South, plain and simple.'"
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| Quote ="The Doghead"Blackpool.'"
i was talking to 'the old guys' in my local a while ago and i remember them saying that they where going to build a national RL stadium in blackpool...but they picked wembley instead
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| I think a national RL stadium would be a massive boost to our sport and a cash cow as is Twickers for Union.
I've posted this before , but Twickers generates £25M per year from corporate hospitality alone for the Rugby Union. That does not include ticket sales or sponsorship or TV money, corporate hospitality alone!
The RFL's total income is around £12M per year.
Aside from the events that could move there straight away the administration of the RFL would move there saving on existing costs too.
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