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| Quote ="Gaz3376"Another one who is rumoured to be off on loan for first team experience.'"
Trying to think of past Warrington players who have gone on loan, then come back and cemented a place in the side. (With the exception of King).
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| Quote ="Wires71"Trying to think of past Warrington players who have gone on loan, then come back and cemented a place in the side. (With the exception of King).'"
Cooper, off the top of my head.
He went Cas for a bit.
Indirectly Ratty Muscle?
Loaned and contract ended, re-signed?
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| Quote ="Gaz3376"Another one who is rumoured to be off on loan for first team experience.'"
Re Max Wood. A solid prospect but he, Lucas Green and Luke Thomas might struggle to get game time early on as they will be behind Vaughan, Harrison, Yates, Crowther, Musgrove and Philbin.
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"Re Max Wood. A solid prospect but he, Lucas Green and Luke Thomas might struggle to get game time early on as they will be behind Vaughan, Harrison, Yates, Crowther, Musgrove and Philbin.'"
Wood, Green and Thomas etc will be available to play for the Smellies with the dual registration arrangement that we have with them.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Cooper, off the top of my head.
He went Cas for a bit.
Indirectly Ratty Muscle?
Loaned and contract ended, re-signed?'"
It's a short list.
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| So the Okoro thing about keeping him if both parties agree, seems to be for a possible season long loan, rather than an actual keep him permanently deal from what i've read.
Which would make more sense, as his game time would be quite limited here. Where if he impresses there he might play week in week out.
Although i would rather have him on a rolling month to month loan, rather than just seeing him off for the whole season.
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| Quote ="Wires71"It's a short list.'"
Ben Currie (Swinton)
Joe Philbin (Swinton, Rochdale, Crusaders, Bradford)
Danny Walker (Rochdale)
Ben Harrison (Swinton, Widnes)
Rhys Evans (Leigh, Swinton)
Tom Lineham (Rochdale)
Chris Riley (Quins RL)
Dec Patton (Rochdale, then again later when he fell out of favour)
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| Quote ="just_browny"Ben Currie (Swinton)
Joe Philbin (Swinton, Rochdale, Crusaders, Bradford)
Danny Walker (Rochdale)
Ben Harrison (Swinton, Widnes)
Rhys Evans (Leigh, Swinton)
Tom Lineham (Rochdale)
Chris Riley (Quins RL)
Dec Patton (Rochdale, then again later when he fell out of favour)'"
Morley and Briers played on duel reg at Swinton.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Morley and Briers played on duel reg at Swinton.'"
Don't remember that but I assume these were both about getting match fitness; I picked examples where players were sent out early in their careers to get a bit of experience and then recorded 100+ appearances for us.
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Quote ="just_browny"Don't remember that but I assume these were both about getting match fitness; I picked examples where players were sent out early in their careers to get a bit of experience and then recorded 100+ appearances for us.'"
https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... ton-lions/
I think I’m wrong about Briers being loaned.
It may had been spoken about following an injury but I wouldn’t put a penny on that either.
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https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... ton-lions/
I think I’m wrong about Briers being loaned.
It may had been spoken about following an injury but I wouldn’t put a penny on that either.
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| Quote ="just_browny"Ben Currie (Swinton)
Joe Philbin (Swinton, Rochdale, Crusaders, Bradford)
Danny Walker (Rochdale)
Ben Harrison (Swinton, Widnes)
Rhys Evans (Leigh, Swinton)
Tom Lineham (Rochdale)
Chris Riley (Quins RL)
Dec Patton (Rochdale, then again later when he fell out of favour)'"
As I said a short list, especially if you compare to those players who went on loan and didn't establish themselves in the 1st team. It's even shorter if you only consider loans made in the last decade.
I guess my point was "if you find yourself on loan, there is a high chance you will be out of the door soon after" as these will testify (non-exhaustive list of loans in the last 5 years).
Dudson
Bullock
Bruines
Longstaff
Dean
Doro
Livett
Robson
Moran
Roebuck
Gannon
Johnson
Brand
Kibula
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| Quote ="Or thane"So the Okoro thing about keeping him if both parties agree, seems to be for a possible season long loan, rather than an actual keep him permanently deal from what i've read.
Which would make more sense, as his game time would be quite limited here. Where if he impresses there he might play week in week out.
Although i would rather have him on a rolling month to month loan, rather than just seeing him off for the whole season.'"
Surely though ANY deal - be it loan, permanent or whatever - only ever happens if all parties agree to it, so I'm not sure why that needs to be written into an agreement. But hey ho, let's just hope it works out for the best.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/19223090.morley-playing-swinton-lions/
I think I’m wrong about Briers being loaned.
It may had been spoken about following an injury but I wouldn’t put a penny on that either.'"
Wasn't Briers threatened with a loan move to Barrow?
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| Quote ="just_browny"Don't remember that but I assume these were both about getting match fitness; I picked examples where players were sent out early in their careers to get a bit of experience and then recorded 100+ appearances for us.'"
I don't think in Lineham's case it was for experience. He had 5 years / 70 games at Hull FC prior to joining us and was 25. His loan period was 3 games.
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| Quote ="karetaker"https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/24807994.warrington-wolves-pre-season-injury-news-sam-burgess/'"
Not sure who to trust now a random forum or the no nonsense head coach. All jokes aside i hope Fitz is fully fit not just for us as a team but himself and family!
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There is a piece in WG but it’s behind a pay wall.
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There is a piece in WG but it’s behind a pay wall.
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| (Credit Matt Turner & WG)
SAM Burgess has played down reports of a rift between himself and one of the key members of his Warrington Wolves side.
Following the end of the 2024 season, rumours started to circulate of a falling-out between Burgess and prop Paul Vaughan, with the latter then heading back home to Australia for the off-season break.
As such, there was speculation aplenty that Vaughan had played his last game for the club, with reports on both sides of the globe linking him with a move back to the NRL with Parramatta Eels.
However, Vaughan returned to England to start pre-season training earlier this month and Burgess insists he remains a big part of his plans moving forward.
“I love Vaughany and I love what he brings,” he said.
“There’s always speculation about a lot of players but with Vaughany, there was a little more than usual.
“From my point of view, I love him being at the club and he’s a big part of what we’re doing.
“I was never making any noise that I wanted him to go anywhere, so I’m happy he’s here.
“He’s been great in pre-season since he’s been back, so it’s been good to have him back around.”
Talk surrounding Vaughan’s future is unlikely to die down, given he is among the Wire players entering the final season of their contracts with the club.
And as a result of a change in the rules surrounding recruitment, players in Vaughan’s situation are now free to discuss deals for 2026 and beyond having previously had to wait until May 1.
Regardless, it would appear Vaughan will be staying for 2025 – but will he be joined by any more new players?
Sam Burgess offers Warrington Wolves recruitment update
Burgess has added three new players to his squad in half-back Oli Leyland, second-rower Dan Russell and rugby union convert Alfie Johnson and refused to rule out any more incomings.
However, he insisted he would be more than happy to go into the new season with the squad he currently has.
“It’s always a fluid market and we’ve got a tiny bit of cap space, so we’ll keep the door open in case something pops up,” he said.
“For now, we’re pretty settled and comfortable with the squad we’ve got.
“I’m really happy with what we have – you never know how things might turn out with injuries and things like that but I’m very confident in the squad.”
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Yeh we knew about the bust up, but Abe's tweet suggest something else has happened.
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Yeh we knew about the bust up, but Abe's tweet suggest something else has happened.
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| Ok well can’t read that anyway, but if it’s something else I hope he comes and gives us more of a clue.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Ok well can’t read that anyway, but if it’s something else I hope he comes and gives us more of a clue.'"
I just copied and posted it.
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| This is all to do with how Sam & Vaughan get on. If they understand each other it doesn't really matter about gossip & speculation and the crap of social media. They seem pretty similar blokes to me. He is bound to be looking for a 2 year contract but sensibly you wouldn't think it would be with us. He has been a very good signing.
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| So nothing at all then.
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