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| Teams are catching up, Leeds are still the best team by a distance, it's not that hard to grasp.
Looking at the league table would suggest to me Leeds are a team with very large injury problems. Having seen Wigan three times this year, I personally feel they're playing above themselves and certainly aren't the standard of Leeds.
Time will tell.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"d040.gif But they would still need to get around 20,000 for each of their remaining games. If any drops below that figure then others would have to be above.
Come the end of the season, Wigan will have an average approaching 14,000 and no more I guarantee you that. Leeds will have a very similar figure.'"
14,000, only 500 above the current average
what are you smoking?
is it legal?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"14,000, only 500 above the current average
what are you smoking?
is it legal?'"
You do know how to work out averages don't you?
Let me make it simple. In order for Wigan to hit a 14,000 average for the season from where we are now, every single game game they play now at home will need to be above 14,100. Thats every single game. If any drop below then another would have to be above.
I repeat, to hit what you said (18,000), every single game they play at home now will have to be 20,000 per game.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"You do know how to work out averages don't you?
Let me make it simple. In order for Wigan to hit a 14,000 average for the season from where we are now, every single game game they play now at home will need to be above 14,100. Thats every single game. If any drop below then another would have to be above.
I repeat, to hit what you said (18,000), every single game they play at home now will have to be 20,000 per game.'"
ill remind you at the end of the season when their average is well above it
as i said before, theyve had clubs with hardly any away fans and have a current average of 13,300 odd.
if form maintains its going to climb a lot
why does this upset you so much?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"ill remind you at the end of the season when their average is well above it
as i said before, theyve had clubs with hardly any away fans and have a current average of 13,300 odd.
if form maintains its going to climb a lot
why does this upset you so much?'"
If its 13,300 then the 14,100 per game just went up. You earlier said it was 13,500.
You can come back end of season, but it simply will not be possible that Wigan will achieve a 18,000 average for the season now. They will not get over 20,000 for every game now.
They will not even hit the 14,000. I accept some gates will be much higher than they have had so far, but when talking averages they will not make such a huge difference.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"They will not even hit the 14,000. I accept some gates will be much higher than they have had so far, but when talking averages they will not make such a huge difference.'"
I think they might hit the 14k, but I agree with you that 18k this season is more than a bit weird.
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| It's pretty simple: to average 18,000 for the season, they need 234,000 through the gates in total. So far, from four games, they've had 53155. That means they need 180845 from the remaining 9 games, which is an average of 20094. No chance.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"with the derby vs st helens to come plus good on field form theyll beat 15,000 easy.
you watch
heck if they get 20,000 say for a game like leeds theres no reason why they cant get 18,000 by year end
this is the emergence of the sleeping giant'"
Maths and attendances still not your strong point I see.
They're at 13,289 average now. 53,155 aggregate.
14,000 average means they need 182,000 aggregate.
To do that, they need 128,845 more people through the gate (an average of 14,316 every game until the end of the season).
15,000 average means they need 195,000 aggregate.
To do that, they need 141,845 more people through the gate (an average of 15,760 every game until the end of the season).
18,000 average means they need 234,000 aggregate.
To do that, they need 180,845 more people through the gate (an average of 20,093 every game until the end of the season).
14k is likely.
15k is possible, despite not hitting 15,760 once this season. If they get 25k against Saints and Wire (the "Big One"icon_wink.gif, they only need to average 13,121 from the rest of the games.
18k is next to impossible. The only games they'll get above 20k are against Saints and Wire. Leeds might come close tonight, but apart from that, the rest will struggle to hit 14k, let alone 20k.
Once you grasp how averages work Dally, you'll understand the stupidity of your statement.
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| We'll break 15,000 average this year with a couple of hundred to spare IMO.
Word on the Wigan board, over 17,000 sold for tonight by 9.30 this morning
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| Quote ="Gotcha"If its 13,300 then the 14,100 per game just went up. You earlier said it was 13,500.
You can come back end of season, but it simply will not be possible that Wigan will achieve a 18,000 average for the season now. They will not get over 20,000 for every game now.
They will not even hit the 14,000. I accept some gates will be much higher than they have had so far, but when talking averages they will not make such a huge difference.'"
why does it upset you so much?
it will be a lot more than 14,000.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Maths and attendances still not your strong point I see.
They're at 13,289 average now. 53,155 aggregate.
14,000 average means they need 182,000 aggregate.
To do that, they need 128,845 more people through the gate (an average of 14,316 every game until the end of the season).
15,000 average means they need 195,000 aggregate.
To do that, they need 141,845 more people through the gate (an average of 15,760 every game until the end of the season).
18,000 average means they need 234,000 aggregate.
To do that, they need 180,845 more people through the gate (an average of 20,093 every game until the end of the season).
14k is likely.
15k is possible, despite not hitting 15,760 once this season. If they get 25k against Saints and Wire (the "Big One"icon_wink.gif, they only need to average 13,121 from the rest of the games.
18k is next to impossible. The only games they'll get above 20k are against Saints and Wire. Leeds might come close tonight, but apart from that, the rest will struggle to hit 14k, let alone 20k.
Once you grasp how averages work Dally, you'll understand the stupidity of your statement.'"
looks like youve put a lot of effort into that
shame i feel asleep after 1 sentence.
sorry
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| Quote ="dally messenger"shame i feel asleep after 1 sentence.
sorry'"
No, don't apologise. Now, i'm no doctor but that sounds like a serious case of narcolepsy. This is a real breakthrough in explaining why your posts are littered with disjointed crap. It looks as though it's probably taking you two, maybe three hours to complete a post - hence the incoherent babble that you post. It's come as a shock to you no doubt - but at least the rest of the posters on here will show a little more understanding towards your affliction and the quality of your posts.
My aplogies in advance for wasting five hours of your time in you reading this.
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| Bradford v Harlequins - 7,153.
Must be Bradford's lowest league crowd for many years.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"It's pretty simple: to average 18,000 for the season, they need 234,000 through the gates in total. So far, from four games, they've had 53155. That means they need 180845 from the remaining 9 games, which is an average of 20094. No chance.'"
and after tonights game they need 20370.
reckon they could be looking good for around 15.5k though, with some big games to come
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| Quote ="littlerich"No, don't apologise. Now, i'm no doctor but that sounds like a serious case of narcolepsy. This is a real breakthrough in explaining why your posts are littered with disjointed crap. It looks as though it's probably taking you two, maybe three hours to complete a post - hence the incoherent babble that you post. It's come as a shock to you no doubt - but at least the rest of the posters on here will show a little more understanding towards your affliction and the quality of your posts.
My aplogies in advance for wasting five hours of your time in you reading this.'"
hey mate you always respond to them
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| wigan and warrington still on top of the SL table, something i foreshadowed at the start of the season
and people said i was wrong there too
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| NRL crowds, after 2 completed rounds :
average this season 17,899
best club - broncos 48,516
worst penrith 11,133
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| Quote ="dally messenger"NRL crowds, after 2 completed rounds :
average this season 17,899
best club - broncos 48,516
worst penrith 11,133'"
Yes we know .......you keep telling us .......the NRL is the best RL comp in the world ........the supporters in Sydney are the most loyal in the world..........RL is the number one sport in Australia.......blah blah blah.
If it wasn't for the 37,000+ average crowd at AFL games I meet even believe you.
Even leaving aside your exaggerarted claims for the NRL, and accepting that it is miles ahead of SuperLeague; you can't compare the two.
The NRL is the number one sport in NSW and Queensland, and I believe that in Brisbane the fans actually attend the games in great numbers, unlike the couch potatoes in Sydney.
However in England, RL is a minority sport, it is overshadowed by soccer in all areas. Hull City get more fans than Hull FC and HKR combined; Wigan Athletic get higher attendances than the Warriors, even Leeds United, despite being in League One, get more than the Rhinos.
Given the lack of newspaper coverage, the lack of a BBC/ITV tv contract, and the huge presence of soccer, especially the Premier League, then SuperLeague's crowd figures are quite strong.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Bradford v Harlequins - 7,153.
Must be Bradford's lowest league crowd for many years.'"
Disgraceful crowd.
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| Quote ="nickcat0"Yes we know .......you keep telling us .......the NRL is the best RL comp in the world ........the supporters in Sydney are the most loyal in the world..........RL is the number one sport in Australia.......blah blah blah.
If it wasn't for the 37,000+ average crowd at AFL games I meet even believe you.
Even leaving aside your exaggerarted claims for the NRL, and accepting that it is miles ahead of SuperLeague; you can't compare the two.
The NRL is the number one sport in NSW and Queensland, and I believe that in Brisbane the fans actually attend the games in great numbers, unlike the couch potatoes in Sydney.
However in England, RL is a minority sport, it is overshadowed by soccer in all areas. Hull City get more fans than Hull FC and HKR combined; =#FF0000Wigan Athletic get higher attendances than the Warriors, even Leeds United, despite being in League One, get more than the Rhinos.
Given the lack of newspaper coverage, the lack of a BBC/ITV tv contract, and the huge presence of soccer, especially the Premier League, then SuperLeague's crowd figures are quite strong.'"
They don't have as many home fans! Wigan is a rugby town.
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| A myth, there are more football supporters in Wigan than there are RL supporters. It's a shame that most of them are MUFC/LFC/EFC fans.
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| Quote ="rodders"A myth, there are more football supporters in Wigan than there are RL supporters. It's a shame that most of them are MUFC/LFC/EFC fans.'"
Prove it.
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| Just using home fans, Wigan get more fans than Latics. 75% of Latics crowds have 5,400 away fans. And against the Manc and scouse clubs its more like 6 or 7,000 cos away fans go in the home ends.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"They don't have as many home fans! Wigan is a rugby town.'"
2010 Wigan Warriors average home SL attendance .......14208
2009/10 Wigan Athletic average home EPL attendance ........17840
As I said, Wigan Athletic get higher attendances than the Warriors. I made no reference to home or away fans.
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