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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"If Toronto get into Super League and play a home Sky game on a Thursday Night do all away supporters get free transport like we do to other away Sky fixtures on Thursday nights? Just asking like......'"
Yeah....coz the viewing figures for a midnight KO on a school night will be epic
Like Catalans, Toronto will play their games at a fixed time on a fixed day, probably 3pm local time on Saturdays, giving SKY an 8pm KO every second week. If they can take the feed from the mancpacs broadcast partners, then I expect Catalans to be at home one week, Toronto the next, giving SKY Thursday, Friday and Saturday every weekend.
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| Quote ="Alan Cargill"What i don't get is why supposed supporters or St Helens and Leeds, 2 of the UK's most succesful and biggest clubs in the summer era are literally wetting themselves over a fake 'Canadian team', do they not think if they were to become as big as they make out on here it may take success away from their 'own' club or maybe as we all know but aren't allowed to say unless we want to get a warning off the mods, they are simply trolling and not a fan of any club but simply pedalling an agenda backed up by some in authority?'"
There’s nothing fake about The Toronto Wolfpack. They have massive support in Canada (over 8000 home fans) and many in the UK, like myself, support them as my 2nd club.
Personally I don’t want to hold the sport back just so my club, Leeds Rhinos, have a better chance of success.
Competing in a league with the likes of Wakefield, Leigh, Widnes and Salford is not as appealing as competing in a league with Catalans, Toulouse and Toronto. It’s exciting times for Super League.
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| Quote ="Alan Cargill"What i don't get is why supposed supporters or St Helens and Leeds, 2 of the UK's most succesful and biggest clubs in the summer era are literally wetting themselves over a fake 'Canadian team', do they not think if they were to become as big as they make out on here it may take success away from their 'own' club or maybe as we all know but aren't allowed to say unless we want to get a warning off the mods, they are simply trolling and not a fan of any club but simply pedalling an agenda backed up by some in authority?'"
If Toronto doesn’t work it doesn’t work. If it does it does. Why the fear and opposition? What better ideas do you have? A Cumbrian merger which isn’t feasible due to the geography of the county?
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"There’s nothing fake about The Toronto Wolfpack. They have massive support in Canada (over 8000 home fans) and many in the UK, like myself, support them as my 2nd club.
Personally I don’t want to hold the sport back just so my club, Leeds Rhinos, have a better chance of success.
Competing in a league with the likes of Wakefield, Leigh, Widnes and Salford is not as appealing as competing in a league with Catalans, Toulouse and Toronto. It’s exciting times for Super League.'"
Why the need to have a dig at those clubs?
Grow up you childish person !
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| Unfortunately as a sport in the UK we lack credibility. Some of that is due to the number of small teams all situated so closely together in largely working class towns. There is still a place in RL for these sides but we need a league represented by the likes of Toulouse, Catalans, London, York, Toronto etc. I hope that if the sport can thrive so can the other teams. Sport is now very closely linked to TV exposure and RU has proven that good TV exposure (at international level in particular) can lead to increased attendances at club games.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"There’s nothing fake about The Toronto Wolfpack. They have massive support in Canada (over 8000 home fans) and many in the UK, like myself, support them as my 2nd club.
Personally I don’t want to hold the sport back just so my club, Leeds Rhinos, have a better chance of success.
Competing in a league with the likes of Wakefield, Leigh, Widnes and Salford is not as appealing as competing in a league with Catalans, Toulouse and Toronto. It’s exciting times for Super League.'"
I thought Catalan were your second club, or do you have more than one second club, a bit like user names
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Because of your strange obsession with denigrating the impressive French and Canadian clubs, while promoting in a cult like manner, the bankruptcy bound Leigh Centurions experiment.'"
I will tell you what was put shall I..
Bugiezilla threw the "troll" comment to Kev, Kev stated it broke the rules by name calling other users.
I did point out, and quoted Kev doing exactly the same on the same thread 2 pages earlier.
I told him of his double standards.
Now all the posts have all mysteriously disappeared without any reason.
Now, what I find funny is nothing is said to the usual baiters on here when they break "the rules", its just swept silently under the carpet.
Nothing to do with an obsession you seem to have with Leigh
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"I will tell you what was put shall I..
Bugiezilla threw the "troll" comment to Kev, Kev stated it broke the rules by name calling other users.
Now all the posts have all mysteriously disappeared without any reason.
Now, what I find funny is nothing is said to the usual baiters on here when they break "the rules", its just swept silently under the carpet.
Nothing to do with an obsession you seem to have with Leigh'"
I have what seems to be an indefinite ban from the Leigh forum for nothing other than stating facts and not heaping praise on Leigh. Why don’t you go back to your echo chamber that is the Leigh forum where you can sing the praises about how fantastic the 6th placed bankruptcy bound club are.
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| Quote ="Alan Cargill"they are simply trolling and not a fan of any club'"
and to prove the point....
Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"There’s nothing fake about The Toronto Wolfpack. '" Alas, there is a lot that is fake........starting with their faux attempt last year to discover canadian talent to this years multiple "hook up's" with Canadian Union and their 100% reliance on both thousands of free tickets and a beer festival, not to mention the outlandish claims of attendances when anyone with eyes can see that they are simply lying and repeating the lie until people believe the lie....and they still peddle the 1st Trans-Atlantic Pro sports side.....type "1991 and WLAF" into Google
Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"They have massive support in Canada (over 8000 home fans) '" No they don't. They purchased Facebook likes.....the reality is that they get a dozen comments on their regular posts.....and their twitter feed gets a handful of shares......the attendance claimed at the widnes game was backed up with narrow lens shots of the crowd North American stadium shots from drones and other ariel shots are the norm, but the stands are strangely never shown in a panoramic shot...why wold that be?
Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"and many in the UK, like myself, support them as my 2nd club.'" Another myth. Many RL fans support their side and won't cross the road to go to away games in the same borough, let alone see an average side replace an another average side whilst delivering NOTHING of value to the sport, either in the UK or anywhere else.
Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Personally I don’t want to hold the sport back just so my club, Leeds Rhinos, have a better chance of success.'"
How would you "personally" be able to hold the sport back? As for leeds having a better chance of success......they are the most successful side i SL history you fool It makes no difference who they have beaten on the way......
Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Competing in a league with the likes of Wakefield, Leigh, Widnes and Salford is not as appealing as competing in a league with Catalans, Toulouse and Toronto. '"
Who says so? You, Lebron and Jean on here, as well as RL Realist and Joff, who seem to have overstepped the mark.....and you again target the same three teams because it gets you the bite you want......you are a troll, pure and simple and it is a mystery as to why the moderators are prepared to put up with your permanent antagonistic stance......
Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"It’s exciting times for Super League.'"
No it isn't. The game needs more than a few thousand curious and beered up canadian fans once a fortnight to bolster its chances of surviving the next decade or so when broadcast rights will become more about the audience than the product and, as was shown when earlier in the year Toronto held events in a local pub for their away games, fewer than 150 people attended....so they stopped posting these events on social media.
Toronto will take £1.8 million from the UK pot should they make SL whilst delivering no value to the game other than a vaguely attractive away day for a handful of fans. No value to our naming sponsor.......no value to our main broadcast partner.....no value to our media/PR departments. They have simply bought 2 championships in the lower level. The "next" North American sides seem to have vanished, with Perez in situ at Bradford and the gym teacher from Huddersfield and his NYC pipe-dream nowhere to be seen. The Denver Test is dead in the water, as USA/Canada 2025 would seem to be....so we have a rich bloke and his team with no youth system, co conveyor belt of new talent, no "failed CFL/NFL stars" in the squad......they are London circa 1995/96......we have a rich blokes plaything which is 100% reliant on his good nature and his good health.
Next year, should they make SL in the next fortnight, SL sides will be forking out £30,000 to get to their away days and will by return expect to see something tangible coming back the other way........if you get drawn in the loop fixtures v Toronto, the play off's and the cup, you could be looking at 4 visits to Toronto...£120,000......you can be damn sure that Ian Lenegan won't be happy with that if there's nothing coming back across the pond
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"its just swept silently under the carpet.'"
It is the modus operandi of the site.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"I have what seems to be an indefinite ban from the Leigh forum for nothing other than stating facts '"
I know a bloke who had 20,000+ posts on these board who got banned for something similar....back in those days posters like yourself and Lebron wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes, but the site owners are reaping what they've sewn and now rely on you 2 and Jean for nearly 1/3rd of their traffic.
Jean does't post on the Catalans, Toulouse, London nor Toronto boards but instead inflicts his expansionist garbage on the VT......
Le Bron hardly ever posts on the St Helens Board whist fewer than 10% of your posts are on the Leeds board......
if it walks like a troll, looks like a troll and posts like a troll, what do you call it other than what it is......
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| Quote ="Call Me God"I know a bloke who had 20,000+ posts on these board who got banned for something similar....back in those days posters like yourself and Lebron wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes, but the site owners are reaping what they've sewn and now rely on you 2 and Jean for nearly 1/3rd of their traffic.
Jean does't post on the Catalans, Toulouse, London nor Toronto boards but instead inflicts his expansionist garbage on the VT......
Le Bron hardly ever posts on the St Helens Board whist fewer than 10% of your posts are on the Leeds board......
[uif it walks like a troll, looks like a troll and posts like a troll, what do you call it other than what it is..[/u....'"
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Don't.....
No doubt Katie will be along shortly to defend the 3 Musketeers
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| Quote ="Call Me God"
Jean does't post on the Catalans, Toulouse, London nor Toronto boards but instead inflicts his expansionist garbage on the VT......
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You obviously don't look much on the Catalans board, because if you did you would see my contributions there.
Unlike you I am known on sight to the Catalans Chairman M. Bernard Guasch. Unlike you I witnessed the game day antics of David Berthezene's grand mother, which only those present at Stade Aime Giral would know of.
I was an attendee at London Broncos games at several different grounds, from the days of Richie Barnett to the days of Thomas Leuluai and Louis McCarthy-Scarsbrook. I spoke often with Tony Rea in his coaching days there, as well as the players (which included at one point Tulsen Tollett now of BBC Sports fame, and Sylvaine Houles, now coach of Toulouse). I doubt that you did that.
Unlike you I have had coffee with Richard Lewis and dinner with Carlos Zalduendo. Have you even heard of them?
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"
Unlike you I am known on sight to the Catalans Chairman M. Bernard Guasch. Unlike you I witnessed the game day antics of David Berthezene's grand mother, which only those present at Stade Aime Giral would know of.
I was an attendee at London Broncos games at several different grounds, from the days of Richie Barnett to the days of Thomas Leuluai and Louis McCarthy-Scarsbrook. I spoke often with Tony Rea in his coaching days there, as well as the players (which included at one point Tulsen Tullett now of BBC Sports fame, and Sylvaine Houles, now coach of Toulouse). I doubt that you did that.
Unlike you I have had coffee with Richard Lewis and dinner with Carlos Zalduendo. Have you even heard of them?'"
You could have just hit Caps Lock and typed LOOK AT ME repeatedly
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"No. Just comparing some of my experiences of the game with those of an ill informed and arrogant fraud. '"
No...you being a narcissistic pillock as usual. I could't care less who a keyboard warrior claims to know or have met, although I must admit to wondering if you're as much of a "see you next tuesday" in reality as you are in your various online personas across other forums.
Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"BTW I am in Sydney now and attended the NRL Preliminary final Easts vs Souths. I will be at the NRL Grand Final at ANZ next Sunday (dinner first with Sydney rock oysters and king prawns in the Members' Bistro). How about you?'"
ME ME ME ME......LOOK AT ME.......
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"You obviously don't look much on the Catalans board, because if you did you would see my contributions there.
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Nope.....you are rarely on there, which is strange for a "fan"of both the French game and the inclusion of French sides in SL. It's 1 day shy of a Month since Catalans defeated Wire in the CC Final...How may of your posts since August 25th have been on the Catalans board? I'll give you a clue....of the 100 or so posts you've put on these forums since that day, not one of them is on the Catalans Board.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"I will tell you what was put shall I..
Bugiezilla threw the "troll" comment to Kev, Kev stated it broke the rules by name calling other users.
I did point out, and quoted Kev doing exactly the same on the same thread 2 pages earlier.
I told him of his double standards.
Now all the posts have all mysteriously disappeared without any reason.
Now, what I find funny is nothing is said to the usual baiters on here when they break "the rules", its just swept silently under the carpet.
Nothing to do with an obsession you seem to have with Leigh'"
Why don’t you ask your mate who’s a mod on the Wigan board why your posts were deleted. Seems strange all your posts would vanish mate
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"INow all the posts have all mysteriously disappeared without any reason.'"
A number of posts where I quoted posts from the 3 amigos and the long lamented Joff recently vanished without trace nor warning or friendly email from the moderators....the reality is that this site is not a democracy and if they want/need the trolls to generate clicks, then the trolls will stay....except Joff, who I think may have pushed a little too hard
Lebron, Sir Kev and Chorley boy have a collective 10k in posts between them.......anyone care to gamble on how many are on the Saints, Leeds and Catalans boards respectively given that these are "THEIR TEAMS", coz I'd be happy to wager no more than 7%.....but nah....they ain't trolls
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Why don’t you ask your mate who’s a mod on the Wigan board why your posts were deleted. Seems strange all your posts would vanish mate
Regards
King James'"
How many times have you been told now...IT WASNT ME WITH THE REFERENCE TO HAVING A MATE WHO IS A MOD ON THE WIGAN BOARD.
Mods delete this wind up cretin, or at the very least reign him in.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Yeah....coz the viewing figures for a midnight KO on a school night will be epic
Like Catalans, Toronto will play their games at a fixed time on a fixed day, probably 3pm local time on Saturdays, giving SKY an 8pm KO every second week. If they can take the feed from the mancpacs broadcast partners, then I expect Catalans to be at home one week, Toronto the next, giving SKY Thursday, Friday and Saturday every weekend.'"
I think you missed the 'Tongue in the Cheek'
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Toronto has an attendance of 8,281 yesterday with hardly any away fans. If clubs are relying on getting a considerable number of away fans through the gate each week they don’t deserve to be in Super League.'"
Can you show me four clubs in Super League that are currently profit making or near break even? RL relies on its backers so away fans are vital.
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| away fans vital? I'm sorry but if a side cannot make enough money by attracting enough home fans through the gate then that is their problem not the away side.
It matters not one iota if Catalan or a Toronto have no away fans at games as it is not there responsibility to make sure the home side gets enough spectators in the ground.
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| With apologies to the more sensible contributors, I think the best thing is to start this over.
We all make this board what it is - provocateurs, angry responders, mods et al.
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