So as long as everybody has a ' holding company ' going bust and reforming every year is OK

pathetic

The bit in bold is both inaccurate and I suspect deliberately disingenuous.

You have made this claim several times on this board in the last few years but simply repeating something over and over does not make it true.

I'm sure you already knew all of the above, but HTH nonetheless.

It can't.

You don't really think they would still be around in 2015 do you?They wouldn't last five minutes in the championship.

A quick google check reveals that my memory was indeed [url=http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/widnes/2007/10/10/widnes-vikings-go-into-administration-100252-19927838/in error[/url

i think the supporters of rl are going to be split into two corners on this one.

1.the supporters of clubs who are safe and know full well that their chosen club will get a franchise next time around,these fans will see no problem in the crusaders carrying on in another name and will purely lookat it has im alright jack so i dont care.

2. supporters of wakey,cas,salford,leigh,widnes and most other championship sides will hope that the crusaders get dropped from super league at the next franchise stage.

my own view is of course that no way should another club be removed from super league whilst the crusaders remain,if the rfl are hell bent on keeping crusaders in the top flight then to save any credability at all they must go to a 15 team comp.what they do however is another matter i just hope they can sleep straight on a night.

If theres a company willing to go now, and lets be honest Crusaders lastyear were a relative success; why oh why throw the hard work away, it just doesnt make sense.
Bad to say but if your club went under those juniors will just make their way to wakey/leeds et al

I'd suggest it doesn't divide so simply

Coming into their third year in superleague and the third time they have had major issues. I would ask you why we should allow a heartlands club who through thick and thin have survived for over 100 years to run the risk of going out of business, for a club who have shown one decent season on the field based on operating to different quota rules then anyone else and being subsidised by the RFL. Also as someone else has said where is the evidence they would be able to see out another three year licence period, cos they aint doing too well at present.

The three clubs most under threat have all got generations of supporters, you can't build that up over night and thats why the expansion clubs for a sport like RL are always going to be a gamble. I don't mind a gamble but you shouldn't cast aside long standing clubs on a whim as the RL appear to be happy to do.

Only in RL could this happen. Could you see the Premier League inviting someone to go into the top flight and kicking an established club out?

The words Pee up and brewery spring to mind.

On the plus side, Crusaders are one of the lead stories on 'Wales Tonight'. It's the first time I can even remember them getting a mention.

What I don't understand about this is why a new club was not set up with no ties to the former club so that this sort of thing would not happen? Surely there was some way of ringfencing the new club and the RFL would have rubber-stamped it in terms of giving it a franchise.

Surely even the RFL cannot sweep this one under the carpet....bl***dy hell its a more transparent and fair administration in Myanmar than we have at the RFL!

IMO the RFL needs to make its mind up,

We either go with the model they have now, expansion, bringing through home grown youth so we can compete with Aus & NZ, creating better stadia etc but make sure it is a level playing field, because it currently isn't.

Or back to P&R which is a fairer system, that all other sports use, which in effect will not achieve the gains the RFL are chasing via the existing model.

I am in favour of the model in use at present even though my club has been dumped on, along with other Champ clubs, as I want to see our sport spread and improve, but the system is flawed as the RFL will break their own rules to keep expansion clubs going.

Come on RFL make up your minds you can't have it both ways, you are turing our sport into a joke.

Got to make financial security a bigger factor in the franchising process, even if it means lodging a security deposit with the RFL. It is rumoured that Steve O'Connor offered it up last time around. For a new franchise especially, i think this could be a safer bet if the RFL think about going down this route again.

Come on guys, even the RFL new this was about to happen

Could someone explain all this to me?





For what reason would they rather go into administration?

If they have set up a new company, does it matter, or, if they were wound up, would the creditors have more chance of getting some money back?

Thats the first thing you lose with age.

It happens every year in the Premier League.

Oh, and whichever current SL club(s) which is unsuccessful in its licence bid - whether it's us, Wakey, Salford or even Crusaders or someone else - won't be making way for Crusaders or any other expansion club but for one or more of the Championship clubs which have qualified to bid. All of which are, in your own words, longstanding heartland clubs with generations of supporters.

Based on the field as far as premier league goes and nobody would be complaining especially not me if that was still the case.

Why do you feel the need to twist peoples words. You and everyone else knew what I meant and would accept its a joke. Please justify to me why what is going on should be accepted.

Ask him in six months when they kick his club out

Not a rumour Rich. Steve had this as part of our application. The sum was £500,000 to be deposited with the RFL. The clowns still wouldn't accept us as being the best option for a 14th club. Utterly incompetent.

Lewis, Woods and all, withdraw the sword and fall at your leisure. Those in love with our once great game can seize the opportunities to expand before us, under the banner of a united sport.

It's very poetic but Wrexham going into administration hardly prompts me to seize anything. Yes, what's happened makes an emotive headline but there's about 45,000 regular fans of the top four SL clubs who couldn't give a rats ass really. Until something rocks the very core of the RFL then no-one there will really act decisively on anything. When BskyB show signs of pulling the plug that's when Mr Manikin Rimmer will be stored away to make way for Mr Lewis once more.

Roll on 2011. It's going to be better than ever.

No this is interesting. Crusaders to be kicked out of SL and Widnes to take their place. next year, under franchising review, the least capable SL side (widnes) gets relegated in favour of the best Championship club (crusaders) ...

It'll be a farce if the Crusaders are given a franchise next time round,not because of the location but they have gone into administration. Which I am sure is a reason why the likes of Leigh and Widnes was overlooked.