Not when they pull out and the venture fails

7 posts , and not one of them has any semblance of logic or basis of fact

pick any one of these reasons numbskull :

1. hearrtland english RL clubs have failed and been given another chance and succceeded.

2. RL in france is now on a more solid footing with the succesful establishment of Les Catalans

3. the PSG model was bound to fail with all the gate receipts being taken by the ground owner

4. the PSG model involved its players also playing for their LER clubs at the same time. sure disaster

5. the bid by Stade Francaise will be to have all costs covered by them. its a strong bid and clearly not related to PSG

but hey, you stick to that tired record

bit like widnes 2 years ago.

buy hey ho, lets just forget about that because it doesnt help your little crusade

His don't need to move.

He gets things wrong with them concreted in place.

But you must be an idiot if you want to ignore past failures in Paris.

no it isnt, but there was (understandably) a few financial difficulties at the outset, they did get good (but not great) crowds from the start as well however they didnt get championship/sl level crowds when they were in the elite. Perpignan isnt and wasnt an RL heartland area, though it is quite funny to watch the flatcappers now desperate to paint it as such



wow, that is a very interesting leve of pretend indignation right there slugger!



what success did Les Catalans come up on? was it a level of success that they acheived when they didnt exist?


Les Catalans didnt do any of this, why do Toulouse have to?



what evidence? that it failed once? well in that case we should be giving up on a fair few clubs,

your also now judging the crusaders on one year, Paris on a club which existed 15 years ago, and Toulouse on a random set of criteria you have made up in your head. I think that tells us all we need to know about you,

but carry on, i have honestly never seen anyone act so indignant in a long long time, its quite funny to watch

true, however, it isnt a large factor,

Paris bid should be judged on its own merits, which could range from absolutely fantastic to woeful, we dont know, we havent seen it, we havent seen the business plan, the investment, the youth development plans, the marketing plans, the sponsors, the facilities, the negotiations with french tv companies and the effect this would have on those,

If all these are in place we make our decision on that, the previous failure (15 years ago) would be insignificant

We played them in a Cup Winners' match in 1936. Arthur Atkinson ( <--) scored. Sound's pretty heartland to me.

yeah, there was apparently a big war thing a couple years later, a deal between some government guy and some other sport, meant bad things for rugby league in france

also Turin toured in the 50s, does this make Italy a heartland?

im willing to ignore the failure in widnes, wigan, bradford, leeds etc

they had RL clubs in london in the 30s i think.

heck wales had NU clubs in 1907 so they must be heartland too

None of those clubs don't have a consistent playing record until the present though.

Les Catalans is a new club so they dont have a continuous playing record either

hth

and RL was also banned from being played during the war as well.

a club formed by Ste Esteve XIII and UTC – they trace their history back.

Ignoring that is like saying Manly Sea Eagles are a new club because they merged with Norths to set up a new club and then dumped Norths to got it alone as a new club again – ie, nonsense.

a merger is a new club

So Huddersfield,Manly and Hull aren't heartlands either?????????





















weird

yeah when you show up to the KC you see loads of gateshead fan, or the busloads of sheffield fans at the galpharm

when wests and balmain merged to formed the wests tigers, its a new club. the club doesnt include the past history

hth

So the Western Suburbs and Balmain aren't RL heartlands either?




















weird

thats a pretty funny argument coming from you.

anyone that argues that

1. Les Cats are a heartland club
2. their entry into SL was guaranteed to be a success because of 1.

is either an idiot or a liar.

the same people now say toulose wont be a success

on the dumb argument above heck toulose should also be counted as a heartland team and therefore success should be instantaneuos

there are more holes in this argument than swiss cheese

These three clubs are still going. Paris aren't. Or do you consider no RL outside of your cosy SL? These three clubs are more steadfast than your fly-by-night pie in the sky clubs like Paris who won't even consider cutting their teeth in "the lower" leagues.

Alternatively, anyone who argues that the Dragons do not come from a rugby league heartland is

a) stupid
b) ignorant
c) a liar
e) any combination of the above.

It's a hearland club. The south of France has played RL for years. It's a heartland club.

Is that because it doesn't fit into your argument so you just dismiss it? You and Smokey are perfect bedfellows.