Since when are the matches midweek ?

They aren't Starbug but the fact still remains it would cost more than it benefits the club so they are better off not taking part.

You mean financially ? , if that is the case it is the same for every single club that has directors putting money in , the NRC games are and always have been the least attractive in attendance

It isn't because the majority of clubs do not have to travel as far for every away game.

So you are telling me that the SWS will get a bigger home crowd when they play Gateshead and Doncaster than if they play Leigh,Fax or Widnes ?

Or that it will cost more money to play away at a NRC game than a league game ?

If it is the case that the Skorpions can only afford to travel to 9 away games this season , then you have to ask the question , are they a viable addition to the sport ? , or is having clubs more than 100 miles apart a good idea ?

Nobody is saying that are they. The away NRC are costs further to the league games which must be played.

They have made their decision for their own reasons so I'm not sure what we're debating here. Scorpions are not taking part in the NRC as they did not last year and that's about it really. Oh and it's Scorpions not Skorpions.

You call for a welsh team playing with primarily welsh players but now seem to be developing some chip on your shoulder regarding Scorpions who are just that.

The purpose of the group games in the NRC is quite simply to give us enough games to operate as clubs , ideally if we had enough teams it would be a straight knock out competition as it used to be

Last season they had mitigating circumstances as they had ony just been formed

I dont care who plays for the club , does it make a difference ? , although this does beg the question

Do the players who play for the SWS also play RU ?

As far as I know the Scorpions players play for Scorpions alone and do not play union. You moaned about the Aussie's playing for Crusaders and the dispensations given to them by the RFL and now you have a team playing under the same rules you still have a grumble.

They saw an opportunity to opt out this year, approached the RFL and it was agreed they would not take part. That is all there is to it.

I think a team of primarily South Welsh lads that did not play rugby league previously taking part in a full Championship 1 season as well as the Challenge Cup is worthwhile myself.

I think this thread has proven beyond all doubt that Starbug is an anti-expansionist and cannot be considered a fan of the game.

Well thats good to hear I suppose , otherwise you would have to wonder if it wasn't being taken seriously

I moaned about a couple of things , 1 was how plain it was you weren't operating to the same salary cap , as you dont get SOO players on NL 2 wages , 2 was claiming that certain players were ' welsh ' as if you had produced them yourself , which you hadn't even if they could claim welsh ancestry


If that is all there is to it , why suggest a financial reason that applies to every club ?

I would guess that every club except Widnes are losing money on a season , so in theory every game every club plays is a loss maker , and it isn't going to change in a hurry, so why do we bother ?

From a playing point of view , is possibly 19 games a season enough to bring on your players and your club ?

How could we produce players in NL2 having only been going for 1/2 years? That would be some going and producing players virtually instantaneously.

They may have been state of origin players at some time in their career. They obviously weren't when they played for Crusaders otherwise would still be there. They were obviously not on the same wages as when they were state of origin players.

I think 19 games a season for Welsh lads is a lot more than we had previously and is progress in an area where there was none up until very recently.

, or that it is ' financial ' when in reality those issues apply to probably all clubs

I accept that the SWS's travel cost and logistics are more difficult , but it's not like that wasn't known from the start

The original poster suggested they had ' fallen on their sword ' because of Blackpools demise , but as was pointed out , that also is an easy problem to get round

Just baffled as they could have possibly asked the RFL to give them 2 home games against heartland Championship clubs with decent traveling support which would have helped financially

But the decision has been made , so fair enough , i'll not post again on the subject as it seems to upset you

Old argument , been done to death , you brought it back up not me

Oakley doakley

No, because of your attitude in general. Scorpions have done [inothing[/i worthy of even the slightest bit of cynicism, and yet because they are an expansion club you feel the need to pick through every detail in the hope that you can unearth some sort of fact or piece of information that you can use against them. You are pathetic.

and therefore was just a bit baffled as to why , now if some people on here have made up reasons , fair enough , just interested

I think that Scorpions (or Skorpions) should be allowed to not play, but then again I think everyone should play in the NRC.

I thought the RFL approached the Scorps?

That could well have been the case after we didn't take part last year.

really Starbug ? last week you wzre saying TO13 should be kicked out of the league etc etc - had a change of heart ? Wouldn't it be ironic if you lot draw TO (away) ? You,and the rest of the Leythers would be made most welcome,as usual

, make a mockery of that statement IMO

If you disagree with what I have just posted , feel free to dig out my posts on the subject , where you will find my opinion of the Toulouse club , it's management and fans clearly spelled out

HTH

yes,yes,we know all about the exemption rule & the vast cost of spreading/expanding the game,but the fact remains you DO actually have a PROBLEM with a Championship club so don't go making statements to the contrary,that's all
I respect your opinion and I actually agree with many of your points - I would probably feel the same as you if I were a fan of another Championship team
back to the Beaujolais Nouveau...........

Quote ="sanjunien"yes,yes,we know all about the exemption rule & the vast cost of spreading/expanding the game,but the fact remains you DO actually have a PROBLEM with a Championship club so don't go making statements to the contrary,that's all I respect your opinion and I actually agree with many of your points - I would probably feel the same as you if I were a fan of another Championship team back to the Beaujolais Nouveau........... '" Very strange , I was just about to post this , just to reinforce your opinions of how much you and others enjoy Toulouses inclusion viewtopic.php?f=22&t=476783 Still doesn't mean I agree with it

Quote ="sanjunien"yes,yes,we know all about the exemption rule & the vast cost of spreading/expanding the game,but the fact remains you DO actually have a PROBLEM with a Championship club so don't go making statements to the contrary,that's all I respect your opinion and I actually agree with many of your points - I would probably feel the same as you if I were a fan of another Championship team back to the Beaujolais Nouveau........... '" Very strange , I was just about to post this , just to reinforce your opinions of how much you and others enjoy Toulouses inclusion viewtopic.php?f=22&t=476783 Still doesn't mean I agree with it

Quote ="Starbug"Very strange , I was just about to post this , just to reinforce your opinions of how much you and others enjoy Toulouses inclusion viewtopic.php?f=22&t=476783 Still doesn't mean I agree with it '" thanks for the link Starbug - it'll be nice to see you lot again plus a great treat for the likes of me & the boss to see some top quality players at TO - it was great meeting the Leigh players & fans post-match and i'm sure my good lady will be wearing her pink 'Salmon Army' tee shirt(kindly donated by a leyther) especially for the day.TO have signed a few decent looking players for 2011 despite losing the likes of Nathan Wynn & Martin Mitchell plus we seem to have the 'dual' agreement with Dragons which should strengthen the squad somewhat. we should be able to give you a game at least...

Quote ="Starbug"Very strange , I was just about to post this , just to reinforce your opinions of how much you and others enjoy Toulouses inclusion viewtopic.php?f=22&t=476783 Still doesn't mean I agree with it '" thanks for the link Starbug - it'll be nice to see you lot again plus a great treat for the likes of me & the boss to see some top quality players at TO - it was great meeting the Leigh players & fans post-match and i'm sure my good lady will be wearing her pink 'Salmon Army' tee shirt(kindly donated by a leyther) especially for the day.TO have signed a few decent looking players for 2011 despite losing the likes of Nathan Wynn & Martin Mitchell plus we seem to have the 'dual' agreement with Dragons which should strengthen the squad somewhat. we should be able to give you a game at least...

Which players have you got Dual Contracts with?

not sure yet,the meeting between the two coaches only took place last week so nothing official has been announced - at the end of last season we had Tony Gigot & William Barthau with Vincent Duport going the other way