I was responding as a concerned uncle not a moderator but no its probably not a good term to use for Wakefield so I've got rid. Anyway would you like a Werthers Original?

Please don't have a hissy fit on my account

Finally you now chose to admit it was wrong

taken you 22 years to admit it but at least we're getting there now

Let me remind you it was you that mentioned on page 32 that fetched up the subject which has no reference to what the title is that's why I questioned you, you never have anything positive to say about Wakefield and is obvious you will try and discredit the club at any opportunity in any form

Very sad in my opinion

Bit weird. do you think I'm Chris Caisley or something? I'm not, I had nowt to do with that decision.

I thought it was clear i thought it was wrong when I said that we used to send kids to work in mines but it's not a reason to do it again. i.e. just because we did it before doesn't mean you should keep doing the wrong thing. Unless you agree with sending kids to work down mines. I know Wakefield has gone full scab now and voted in a tory but still.

And the rest of the RL world are STILL paying for Bradford's past mistakes.
As you say, two wrongs dont make a right.

Doing everything (badly) to try and help Bradford last time (or maybe the time before that) was wrong and "promoting" them now would also be wrong.

As you say, two wrongs dont make a right.

Every Bradford fan I've spoken to agrees with me that it shouldn't be us. I did say that about 10 pages back.

Mate, you're normally quite a reasoned poster so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

If you think we've had any favours from anyone in the last 8 years I'd hate to see what someone would do who really had it in for us.

For the record I thought the whole Odsal business back in 2012 stank to high heaven as it was the catalyst for the club going down the toilet. It's also been a big reason behind the various fiascos since. That and the self interest of SL clubs in 2013 and the lack of diligence in allowing obvious shysters and cowboys to take over the club since. So if anyone thinks that Odsal deal was a favour to us they need their heads testing.

The current club is in no way ready for SL. It shouldn't be the Bulls going into SL in 2021. If it is then it's down to SL clubs self interest rather than any stupid favour the RFL did for us 8 years ago. I doubt that will penetrate the thicker skulls on here and on social media.

For me, with the 8 clubs that have thrown their hat in the ring, the preference should be given to "recent" on field form.
Yes, the chosen club should be financially as strong as possible. Although right now, unless they have a very, very, wealthy owner, all bets could be off. - Not getting crowds in for the early part of the season could be devastating for clubs all the way down the 3 "professional" leagues.
Despite my rants, I'm not trying to be "anti" Bradford, other than absolutely believing that there are a number of other clubs, who are significantly more worthy.
Having Nigel Wood involved at Bradford, will very likely increase their chance of selection but, this doesn't stop their selection being wrong.
RL as with all sport should be decided on the field and not by a phoney box ticking exercise, lets face it, our last venture into "franchising" didn't end too well and with the current method, there are going to be some very angry clubs and their supporters.
Looks like there will be another spectacular own goal for the sport.

So bullseye which is Wood a shyster or cowboy

I would have thought that without evidence of wrong-doing, calling a named individual a shyster on here would be a very bad idea for the person doing it and the site owners.

You decide.

If you think that's bad just have a look at what he accused Wankfield, sorry, Wakefield of earlier

And you called me childish earlier

Yet you give the thumbs up to a forum moderator in doing so



How bazaar

No. Bullseye said " That and the self interest of SL clubs in 2013 and the lack of diligence in allowing obvious shysters and cowboys to take over the club since" which I believe is true. We have had a number of dubious chancers take us over. That's not to say the present owner is or isn't one.

But their core fan base is 2 blokes, 3 goats & a dog !

Wouldn't Nigel Wood & family being major shareholders in Bradford be part of the problem ? A former RFL & IRLF Chief being involved in a club that his former colleagues & friends potentially promote ahead of more 'qualified' applicants would only add to the calls of potential corruption.

How to make friends & alienate people !

Mark Sawyer disagrees [i“We’re close to finalising Bradford’s Super League application and returning to Odsal is a crucial part of it. “We’ve been in meaningful talks with Bradford Council and the Rugby Football League about being back there early in 2021, which would fall nicely for the start of next season. A deal is getting closer and would involve spending a lot of money to refurbish the stadium and meet all safety requirements. “Bradford is a big city, the Bulls have a huge fanbase, a great history and a strong academy, so we should be in Super League". [/i

So it appears the Odsal problem has a solution now, and the opportunity is there for the fanbase to return in numbers. The council now seem supportive, people are putting money in and I saw something about Chalmers not chasing the money he is owed. Whilst all that that may not quite be enough to create a winning team, it certainly sounds like enough to re-launch the club in Superleague.

If they are re-admitted then we will have to see what the fan reaction is and how many fans give them their backing, then we need to see what the reaction of Bradford Business is and how much support they may give to what may be Bradford's premier sports club. If they don't manage 11th. spot or better (they will surely feel that they can easily do better than a Salford minus Watson, and heavily in debt) then I'd guess if everyone is in it for the long haul they will just aim to win the Championship 2022.

With respect I see more than enough for them to give this a go in the here and now. Delay for whatever reason (you don't give any reason) can only dampen the growing enthusiastic support getting behind the club, and allegedly that includes some top Superleague clubs. Bulls must not look a gift horse in the mouth, and I am sure they won't either.......

....And finally a return of the mighty Bulls splashed all over the national sporting media will nicely condemn the stuff about North America (especially McDermotts moaning and groaning) to be yesterdays news and today's fish and chip paper....

Except for how many times Bradford have financial issues. Kick out Toronto and bring in another club with an even worse financial history. What an own goal by rl but hardly surprising.

its not been decided yet who is coming up so how is it an own goal Toronto had a chance of revealing its worth but chose to keep it to himself now that had to be a own goal

Toronto have had their chance - end of story

Let's hope that the games administrators make the "right" choice ??
Although they could point to the Bulls glory years, now 15-20 years ago, you would expect that they may take account of where they are right now.
However, you do suspect that with who is involved with their bid, much like Odsal, we may not have a level playing field.

Bizarre indeed.

If the Bulls, or any team for that matter are wangled in, there is no need for fans to worry about relegation. A license will be given.

If Odsal is the future of SL let’s just give the Govt it’s money back and pack up.

Well if that is just Bull bait then lets see who you may annoy with that comment......

The grounds are not exclusively the future of course, it's people playing and watching that's the future. Last time I went to Odsal was Bradford.v.Leeds with a 10,000 crowd and it was a fantastic day all round. The Bradford.v.Leeds academy game is also keenly contested

I've also been to the modern keepmoat stadium with a few hundred in for the game between two clubs who don't have much of an amateur/junior scene at all and don't produce players....... .

Is there no end to your witty retorts cutting your opponent to the quick