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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Can you remember what the financial state of the game actually is ??
Leigh, Fev, Salford and Widnes all rolling in cash
I know that you want to replace these clubs (and Wakefield) with your new mercenary clubs but, where do you actually see the future of the game, when we are down to half a dozen top flight UK clubs and the rest playing in some semi professional pop n crisp league, it should be a huge draw for the rugby minded aspirational kids.
You and your ilk are doing more for killing the sport than RU have done over the last 30 years.
If you carry on down this path, you will probably find Wigan, Hull, Saints and Leeds all throwing their cap in with the Yawnion lot.'"
Exactly.
I'm perfectly fine with UK clubs joining as there may be decent away fan numbers, but Toronto bring no one. Even Catalan hardly bring anyone.
Doesn't take much more than one richer backer deciding he wants to retire to see one of the "big" clubs go into freefall with no funding. Really need a solid supporter base or the game is finished. This isn't football where the big clubs can live off sponsorship and TV revenue alone.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Rubbish, flights are available for under £400. This is not a huge cost for full time professional clubs. Most Super League clubs will make the trip once a year.'"
News alert: Toronto are a championship club !
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Can you remember what the financial state of the game actually is ??
Leigh, Fev, Salford and Widnes all rolling in cash
I know that you want to replace these clubs (and Wakefield) with your new mercenary clubs but, where do you actually see the future of the game, when we are down to half a dozen top flight UK clubs and the rest playing in some semi professional pop n crisp league, it should be a huge draw for the rugby minded aspirational kids.
You and your ilk are doing more for killing the sport than RU have done over the last 30 years.
If you carry on down this path, you will probably find Wigan, Hull, Saints and Leeds all throwing their cap in with the Yawnion lot.'"
Indeed: One of our games biggest & best supported clubs Wigan Warriors
2016...they made an operating loss of £605,000
2017...they made an operating loss of £432,000
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"News alert: Toronto are a championship club !
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They won’t be a Championship club in 2019, and as we’re talking travel costs to Toronto, no Championship or League one club has had to pay for their own travel, it’s all been covered by the Wolfpack’s fantastic owner David Argyle.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"...
I say Toulouse not to win again and London to visit Toronto....'"
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| Quote ="Harrison"
I'm perfectly fine with UK clubs joining as there may be decent away fan numbers, but Toronto bring no one. Even Catalan hardly bring anyone.
Doesn't take much more than one richer backer deciding he wants to retire to see one of the "big" clubs go into freefall with no funding. Really need a solid supporter base or the game is finished. This isn't football where the big clubs can live off sponsorship and TV revenue alone.'"
Toronto has an attendance of 8,281 yesterday with hardly any away fans. If clubs are relying on getting a considerable number of away fans through the gate each week they don’t deserve to be in Super League.
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| 8000+ fans with hardly any away support. Unbelievable.
Cracking write up in the Toronto star which is the main sports story on their web page. Something along the lines of Toronto have rattled the feathers of the flat cappers but their inclusion in SL will only benefit these “small market teams” lol.
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| Points difference wise, Leeds would have to lose by 32 next week to Toronto to not make the top 3. (And HKR win by 44)
Also the u19’s are playing in the u19’s GF next weekend so we won’t be throwing any kids in.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"They won’t be a Championship club in 2019, and as we’re talking travel costs to Toronto, no Championship or League one club has had to pay for their own travel, it’s all been covered by the Wolfpack’s fantastic owner David Argyle.'"
Fake Rhinos fan, where did you buy your crystal ball from ?
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Indeed: One of our games biggest & best supported clubs Wigan Warriors
2016...they made an operating loss of £605,000
2017...they made an operating loss of £432,000'"
Wonder if that had anything to do with the desperate need for another structure change ?
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"They won’t be a Championship club in 2019, and as we’re talking travel costs to Toronto, no Championship or League one club has had to pay for their own travel, it’s all been covered by the Wolfpack’s fantastic owner David Argyle.'"
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Wonder if that had anything to do with the desperate need for another structure change ?'"
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| Why have my posts been removed?
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| Quote ="Lebron James"8000+ fans with hardly any away support. Unbelievable.
Cracking write up in the Toronto star which is the main sports story on their web page. Something along the lines of Toronto have rattled the feathers of the flat cappers but their inclusion in SL will only benefit these “small market teams” lol.
Regards
King James'"
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Why have my posts been removed?'"
Because of your strange obsession with denigrating the impressive French and Canadian clubs, while promoting in a cult like manner, the bankruptcy bound Leigh Centurions experiment.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"8000+ fans with hardly any away support. Unbelievable.
Cracking write up in the Toronto star which is the main sports story on their web page. Something along the lines of Toronto have rattled the feathers of the flat cappers but their inclusion in SL will only benefit these “small market teams” lol.
Regards
King James'"
8,000 tickets doesn't necessarily equate to 8,000 fans. Less than 5,000 at the Shay today, but there looked to be rather more in the ground than at the game I saw yesterday on TV. Great crowds nevertheless (albeit very quiet, needing the guy on the tannoy to wake them up regularly), but if TWP fail to get into SL this time round, it'll be very interesting to how the Toronto public react?
TWP are playing with a set of foreign players with no apparent desire to start building RL locally in the community. It's true that there's a novelty factor for Sky, but that will soon wear off, particularly if they're still playing in the Championship next year.
Catalans and Toulouse? Having one in SL and one in the Championship gives fans from both leagues a chance to organise a trip to the south of France once a year. More affordable, and can be extended to a proper holiday. Both in the same league wouldn't be so great.
It's down to performances on the field next weekend, and what will be will be, but there's no way that TWP, TO or London in SL will somehow translate into the game being transformed in any way shape or form.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Because of your strange obsession with denigrating the impressive French and Canadian clubs, while promoting in a cult like manner, the bankruptcy bound Leigh Centurions experiment.'"
You are the only poster on this board who consistently denigrates clubs, your use of insulting adjectives is a sign of your contempt for clubs who don’t fit your expansion obsession.
You must have a guardian angel.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Because of your strange obsession with denigrating the impressive French and Canadian clubs, while promoting in a cult like manner, the bankruptcy bound Leigh Centurions experiment.'"
I'm clearly not a Leigh fan, but on what do you base the "bankruptcy" statement? Also, in terms of being an "experiment", Leigh were a founder member of the Northern Union in 1895. They've had success and been in the doldrums at times in the intervening period, but the "impressive" French and Canadian clubs still have a way to go to establish themselves as true "winners" in the sport. A Challenge Cup triumph is a start, but no more than that.
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https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/blog/2018/08/1 ... -beaumont/
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https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/blog/2018/08/1 ... -beaumont/
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/blog/2018/08/12/a-statement-from-club-owner-derek-beaumont/'"
The question wasn't addressed to you....
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| What i don't get is why supposed supporters or St Helens and Leeds, 2 of the UK's most succesful and biggest clubs in the summer era are literally wetting themselves over a fake 'Canadian team', do they not think if they were to become as big as they make out on here it may take success away from their 'own' club or maybe as we all know but aren't allowed to say unless we want to get a warning off the mods, they are simply trolling and not a fan of any club but simply pedalling an agenda backed up by some in authority?
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| If Toronto get into Super League and play a home Sky game on a Thursday Night do all away supporters get free transport like we do to other away Sky fixtures on Thursday nights? Just asking like......
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