But surely that’s the type of ‘solid’ expansion the RFL is after?

It can ‘trumpet’ about the 1.8 million new RL fans in Canada if Ottawa and New York do the same local derbies at major US stadiums, how can TV resist a new sport with 4 million supporters....

And I’ll show my bare b*m on the Town Hall steps if anything ever comes of these stupid ideas it’s time the RFL woke up and smelt the ‘coffee’

The last week has proved SBW is more important than UK rugby league .... even if it’s only four games and some play offs...

It’s a very sad position to look at for me...

Or 3,600,000 at £50 each

It was way back in February when Argylle had his dream chance to buy in at Melbourne Storm. Any gentleman would surely look to transition from one club to another without doing what he did and pulling the plug on TWP half way through a season. Especially causing distress to the players Looking at it now I don't believe Perez or Argyle were ever "expansionists".

YES your right TotalRL ran with it as did League Weekly forever trumpeting this new dawn. I would not mind but these RL publications surely had a duty to their largely traditional readership to be a bit more realistic, and report a bit more accurately rather than be a fanfare for a phoney club that would badly damage the game.

Sure Superleague rightly refused to put the red carpet out and refused the idea of taking in phoney clubs, but what they DID do was a deal with Rimmer that gave TWP entry to Superleague and that was a really strange and damaging thing to do. TWP never had an automatic right to promotion as a guest club but the reports were Rimmer conceded an end to the Middle eights and MPG in return for TWP's promotion.

Did Superleague think that they could just handle TWP by leaving them to struggle in bottom place then go back down again? Did Superleague not know Argyle was looking to go to melbourne? In letting them in it gave Argylle a chance for revenge by him pulling the plug half way through the season. [i[uWas the lack of attention to the important issue of visas just an "oversight" did Argyle really "run out of money"[/u[/i

[uI think not[/u, Argyle got his revenge big time and has gone on to rub it in by suggesting he'll be back in February (a wordplay on the Terminator

). IMHO it wasn't a bad idea to let them in the game but it was a terrible mistake to let them in Superleague. Brian Carney on behalf of SKY is pretty scathing so you can bet the SKY bosses are as well. A naive and terrible mistake by Superleague............

That's as difficult as finding another one person willing to sink some millions into Toronto. I take your point, as you did mine.

if you happen to come across one make sure you do your checks as we wouldn't want them to just walk away and leave players having not received wages and with the threat of unemployment, I mean who would be ruthless enough to do that

unanimous, with whom? (or are you looking for a different word?)

Warrington fans are in uproar about this on social media. Because now they have fallen to 6th after having the 2 points taken off them.

I haven’t the heart to tell them that their nearest rivals have also had 2 points taken off them. They are too stupid to understand

It was a play on Are You Being Served. Not Toronto's unpaid bills. The fact i have to explain this suggests you are a younger generation which is fine. I think we sometimes equate our own team with wider scheme. Plenty of KR fans who embrace Wolfpack and many who don't same with FC. The sooner we are talking about games the better

oh I've seen Are You Being Served and your 'unanimous' comment still strikes no chord.

Interesting comments by Perez on the Sky vlogcast. I feel a little more confident for Toronto's future.

Especially if it is the Rfl who are making the decision and not the Super league and the Chairmen.

What future should they expect, after nullifying player contracts and withdrawing from the comp, not to mention their very wealthy owner no longer being there and before giving your answer, just consider what would have happened had it been a UK (or French) based club.

The whole experiment is in tatters.

What did Perez say?

He said the trolls on th VT are not half buying into my BS.

:11wn0fkn

The fact you did explain it to him was only rising to the bait. Argyle interview sees him appeal for TWP to be treated like any other team. He confirms his spend at $30M (which equates to £18M). Once again his wealth is at least $1000M and could be multiples of that. Money isn't his problem.

Then over to Brian Noble who doesn't even comprehend that the "business model" is merely throwing $Millions at the club. He cites the clubs inability to play at Lamport being central in the clubs collapse because somehow they lost revenues due to no home games. He appears to indicate in all there were 12,000 TWP fans and that the club has gone bust on losing that revenue.

Fans on "the other side" are posting their matchday experiences on trips to Toronto and confirming that the crowds were not always what they were announced and that many fans were seen walking straight in without offering any proof of payment and once the game started gates would be left open. Free tickets like confetti and many so called fans only there for the beer. All of that is fine if the club wants to build a crowd and build interest in the game, but Noble should not pretend they went bust on the lack of crowd income.

Short interview with Elstone well trained at saying very little in as many words as needed to get past the microphone in which he delivered this message [i:11wn0fkn[i"David Argyle was aware of the fine detail and financial challenges from the start[/i" There never was any SKY money on offer to him, another "blame someone else" nonsense.

Truth is Covid has been a great excuse for him to exit a party where he realised he was not wanted. I would be sure there's a massive fanfare and welcome waiting for him when he arrives at Melbourne Storm.

Basically along the lines that there is still a bright future, believes and hopes that the decision makers will make the right choice.

Also, interestingly, says Argyle should step aside and allow new owners to take the club forward.

It was positive, unlike the majority of posts here.

Re Ottawa, says up to 10 player signings to be announced soon.

I'll also add that Perez stated that after 3 years there would be another meeting with Super league to discuss funding etc, that is written into the playing agreement.

Meeting never happened.

Which experiment?

Your not talking about the 2006 experiment in which they put a French club in Superleague so that the club could professionalise the top French players and provide a French test match team to play Great Britain annually. International competition being so important to the game?

You know the annual International that started at Headingley before a big crowd with France in the lead coming up to half time. The annual International that ended on a thursday night in Leigh 2018 before a sp crowd with the game over before half time?.

oh change the record you miserable sod. you hate foriners, we get it, go watch your Til Death us do part box set.

Great piece of fishing.

You just knew I had to take the bait on that one...Foriners

He said Toronto is like an orange that is being squeezed to get the juice out and that they should use the seeds from inside the orange to produce more orange trees, he needs to stop smoking weed it's doing things to his head.

Also mention about Hemel Hempstead and why they bought the club as He saw the loophole that didn't allow Toronto central funding, he went on to praise the club and quality of players there and said He had 10 players lined up, now let's see how many of them are original from the team bought.

He is easy going to listen to and I can see why some believe in his guff, just needs to be more realist with what can be achieved without damaging the game.

thanks...

Well, from a quick Google search, an orange tree grown from seed takes 15 to 20 years to bare fruit, so it's a pretty rubbish analogy!

Is the interview online somewhere?

no fishing here Alf.

Yes

Why not get yourself over the Ottawa thread please. We can discuss how Ottawa can do it differently there?

You would be most welcome. As would anyone else but no baiting people please

I've looked, but i can't find anything after May this year.

edit:unless it's what is on Donnymans (yet another) 'I hate expansion' thread...