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| it will be interesting to see if wakey do end up averaging 7000
assuming cas maintain their average i cant see the RFL kicking out a club that averages 7000 and has reasonable on field form, crap ground or not
then i think it will be 16 teams being current lot + widnes and toulose / paris
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| Quote ="dally messenger"it will be interesting to see if wakey do end up averaging 7000
assuming cas maintain their average i cant see the RFL kicking out a club that averages 7000 and has reasonable on field form, crap ground or not
then i think it will be 16 teams being current lot + widnes and toulose / paris'"
Cas have averaged 7500 for the last 2 seasons, and the attendances are up on corresponding fixtures last year. Having two of your first 3 home games on tv does not help attendances.
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| I have thought and posted before that I think Wakey could add a good couple of thousand on their average gate at a new ground. The place is, I am sure we all agree, the worst stadium in SL and it does not have any real cover for standing spectators, a bigger issue than you might think, especially for away supporters!
You can clearly see some both home and away supporters not wanting to turn-up to Belle Vue if it is raining or has forecast rain. Couple this with poor views for spectators in general, especially kids, poor facilities and amenities and not a 'modern' family friendly environment and I think there is the answer to poor gates in a big catchment area.
I think that Wakey will indeed do another Warrington if/when they move to a new home.
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| Quote ="Bilko"I've a list of averages back to 1996 on this page [url=http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/index.php?page_id=259=#FF0000wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/index.php?page_id=259[/url
Just scroll down below the all time super league table.'"
That average makes it hard to believe Salford were granted a license ahead of Fax or Widnes really
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I have thought and posted before that I think Wakey could add a good couple of thousand on their average gate at a new ground. The place is, I am sure we all agree, the worst stadium in SL and it does not have any real cover for standing spectators, a bigger issue than you might think, especially for away supporters!
You can clearly see some both home and away supporters not wanting to turn-up to Belle Vue if it is raining or has forecast rain. Couple this with poor views for spectators in general, especially kids, poor facilities and amenities and not a 'modern' family friendly environment and I think there is the answer to poor gates in a big catchment area.
I think that Wakey will indeed do another Warrington if/when they move to a new home.'"
=#8000FFThey could add more to the attendance now if they stopped charging £20
but I'd expect Cas & Wakey to have a Warrington like increase in attendance (40% or something?) which would take the average for Cas over 10k.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Not sure why there are so many saying Hull with get 15k plus.
Hudds haven't brought anything over 1000 other than for the 2007 play off game. Hull have 9200 season ticket holders. I can't see 5000 walk ups on the night. Personally I think 14000 will be a decent enough gate.'"
Probably because they gave away 3,000 freebies for both the Harlequin and Bradford game. Speculation on the hull site is because their P&O sponsorship ends at the end of this season and bigger crowds would help pulling in another sponsor.
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| Quote ="Bertie"Probably because they gave away 3,000 freebies for both the Harlequin and Bradford game. Speculation on the hull site is because their P&O sponsorship ends at the end of this season and bigger crowds would help pulling in another sponsor.'"
Hull FC did not give any tickets away for the Bradford game. They had an offer with junior amateur clubs to sell tickets for the match at a reduced rate and earn a commission for their clubs for doing it. I would estimate that no more than 400 people took up this offer as it was for the South Stand only, which is already at over 80% of capacity with season ticket holders.
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| Quote ="Bertie"Probably because they gave away 3,000 freebies for both the Harlequin and Bradford game. Speculation on the hull site is because their P&O sponsorship ends at the end of this season and bigger crowds would help pulling in another sponsor.'"
The Quins game at the KC has for the last couple of seasons a game where the Hull Management has given out 3000 free tickets to local schools. That and teh Catalans game are easy ones to do it for as the away end is not used and the free tickets are all for the North end.
There were no free tickets for the Bradford game
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| Quote ="Bertie"Probably because they gave away 3,000 freebies for both the Harlequin and Bradford game. Speculation on the hull site is because their P&O sponsorship ends at the end of this season and bigger crowds would help pulling in another sponsor.'"
The tickets were reduced to £10 for adults and £5 for kids. I think you'll find the same price your lt charge for the south stand every week
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| Sorry, but so far this year Hull FC and Warrington have reacted to the visit of Quins with some really clever ideas and promotions. Wire got more for the game v Quins than the game v Bradford or Crusaders. They also did something last year which resulted in Quins being their 3rd best gate after Saints and Wigan. Hull FC have the best marketing team in SL IMO and more clubs should be trying to emulate them.
When you know you are having a badly supported team visit it is up to your club to do something about it....the only time I can recall when the away fans really marketed a game was when Castleford put on a fleet of free coaches to London...a brilliant idea but not financially viable.
Who cares if Hull give away free tickets? They are already paying the stewards, the bar staff etc.....why not maximise pie sales and maybe get some new fans into the bargain?
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| Trin got as really good gate against Celtic when they got Diversity to perform.
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| Quote ="Chorlton RL"Trin got as really good gate against Celtic when they got Diversity to perform.'"
The Gentleman who is assisting with the marketing at Trinity is a real pro and fully understands the "family" values of the game. Once Trinity have a new stadium I believe they will average around the 10k mark......but they need to start putting bricks on top of each other pretty sharpish.
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| Agreed Gutterfax, I've thought all along that Trin has the potential to double their current attendances in a new ground. As far as I know it won't be long before said bricks will be brought down to Newmarket.
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| Quote ="FC MONK"The tickets were reduced to £10 for adults and £5 for kids. I think you'll find the same price your lt charge for the south stand every week'"
South Stand at CP has only been opened once so far this year (1st game).
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Sorry, but so far this year Hull FC and Warrington have reacted to the visit of Quins with some really clever ideas and promotions. Wire got more for the game v Quins than the game v Bradford or Crusaders. They also did something last year which resulted in Quins being their 3rd best gate after Saints and Wigan. Hull FC have the best marketing team in SL IMO and more clubs should be trying to emulate them.
When you know you are having a badly supported team visit it is up to your club to do something about it....the only time I can recall when the away fans really marketed a game was when Castleford put on a fleet of free coaches to London...a brilliant idea but not financially viable.
[size=150Who cares if Hull give away free tickets[/size? They are already paying the stewards, the bar staff etc.....why not maximise pie sales and maybe get some new fans into the bargain?'"
You will probably find its those who are envious of our following who seem to be bothered.
As you say, when there is a visiting team which will not bring any more than a mini bus worth why not utilise the facilities.
Hull did the same thing for the quins game at the end of last season. The result was a 15k attendance in our worst season in 10 years.
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| Round 1:
Wigan v Crusaders 13,680
Leeds v Cas 15,875
Hudds v Bulls 9,774
St's v FC 12,142
HKR v Salford 9,123
Wakey v Dragons 5,818
Wolves v Quins 11,678
Total= 78,090
Avg: 11,155
Round 2:
Hull v Hudds 14,520
Salford v Crusaders 3,421
Wigan v HKR 12,429
Cas v Wolves 7,569
Bulls v St's 10,165
Quins v Dragons 2,330
Wakey v Leeds 9,783
Total = 60,217
Avg = 8,602
Round 3:
Bulls v Cas 8,019
Leeds v Salford 12,700
Wolves v Wigan 13,024
Dragons v St's 7,825
Quins v Wakey 3,688
Crus v Hull 6,794
HKR v Hudds 7,595
Total = 59,645
Avg. = 8,520
Round 4
Crusaders v Leeds 10,133
Hull FC v Quins 13,965
Salford v Bulls 3,806
St's v Wakey 10,717
Wigan v Dragons 12,001
Cas v HKR 6,855
Hudds v Wolves 8,567
Total = 66,044
Avg = 9,434
Round 5
HFC v Cas 13,352
Leeds v Quins 12,684
Wolves v Crusaders 11,113
Bulls v Wigan 9,244
HKR v St's 8,202
Wakey v Hudds 5,237
Salford v Dragons 3,022
Total = 62,854
Avg = 8,979
Round 6
Wigan v Hull 15,045
St's v Crusaders 8,507
HKR v Wakey 8,004
Wolves v Bulls 10,434
Dragons v Cas 6,810
Giants v leeds 10,116
Quins v Slaford 2,395
Total = 61,311
Avg = 8,758
Round 7
St's v Wolves 17,500
Leeds v HKR 15,201
HFC v Bulls 14,466
Crus v Dragons 6,124
Quins v Hudds 2,624
Wakey v Salford 4,833
Cas v Wigan 8,493
Total = 69,241
Rd Avg = 9,891
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| We dont need every round repeating
Maybe the best and the last couple but otherwise you'll be putting in some preeeetty long posts comr week 20
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| because they're wrong? could just be a rounding up/down issue
ok I'll just do last round, graph and totals.
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| Thanks to Quins Trin's crowd looks poor and not woeful...
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| Quote ="Chorlton RL"Trin got as really good gate against Celtic when they got Diversity to perform.'"
Likewise with Warrington's good attendance against Quins when Jedward Performed...
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| Quote ="oli30045"Likewise with Warrington's good attendance against Quins when Jedward Performed...'"
Well, you do need to keep the comedy element of matchday going now that Penny rarely plays for you
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| 20k would be great for that game.
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| wigan or hull will end up with the highest crowd average this season
with mcguire as coach they could even win SL and their crowds will jump
shame that the soccer team arent going to get relegated but at least hull tigers face the chop
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