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| Don't know what the big deal is?
I think Super League is great this year.
If Leeds and Saints are the best then they should get to the Grand Final and I'll enjoy watching them again. If it's someone else I'll probably support the under dog (assuming Wakefield aren't the other team of course?!!!?!)
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| Quote ="moxi1"So you want to go back to the 90s and when Wigan were winning everything because they had more money than everyone else? Are you a Wigan fan in disguise?'"
I wouldn't mind.
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| Just a question for those bemoaning the lack of 'good' games this year. What in your eyes constitutes a 'good' game? A free-scoring pointsfest? In other words, 2 teams with woeful defences?
Fact is the league has become more competitive, and coaches are having to earn their corn a hell of a lot more than they used to. If it has led to a supposed drop in quality, so be it. The long-term rewards will be of more comfort to supporters than hoping to see the occasional 42-38 scoreline.
And in response to the OP, yes. Even though my team don't seem to be doing all that well, i can live with it.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Whats Super league ?'"
It's the competition you applied to join last spring
And in asnwer to Damo: yes
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| Quote ="moxi1"So you want to go back to the 90s and when Wigan were winning everything because they had more money than everyone else? Are you a Wigan fan in disguise?'"
Leeds and Saints have took over Wigan for the last two years. In fact apart from Bradford Bulls one off in 2005 its been Leeds Rhinos and St Helens all the way!
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| there have been no classic super league games this season because of the top 8 play off system.it has watered down the competetiveness of super league.as a wigan poster stated earlier in the thread,they have had average seasons but have stepped up to the mark at the play off stage.
the super league season is just a long warm up to the play offs.for that reason i am not happy with sl at the moment.bring back the top 5
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| Happy with Super League ?
YES.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Leeds and Saints have took over Wigan for the last two years. In fact apart from Bradford Bulls one off in 2005 its been Leeds Rhinos and St Helens all the way!'"
Ah, of course, SL started in 2004 when L***s finally got off their ar$es and won something.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Leeds and Saints have took over Wigan for the last two years. In fact apart from Bradford Bulls one off in 2005 its been Leeds Rhinos and St Helens all the way!'"
Were 2001 and 2003 one offs as well damo In the sl era bradford have won the same number of grand finals as leeds and more challenge cups. So really its been saints and bradford with leeds coming in 3rd.
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| I've seen loads of great games this season, games that have been won or lost by 2, 4 or even 1 point, that have been end to end rugby.
Superleague is good this year.
Exciting, lots of teams stand a chance of getting in the top 8. The salary cap is working, the talent pool is spread out more evenly, meaning a slight drop in quality in some teams.
Some of the less high profile teams are producing, and the key point keeping, there own good young British players, the likes of Ferguson and Westerman.
Of course saints and Leeds are top teams, and that probably won't change for a long time, but that's not taken anything away from the league. Some one has to be the best teams, and they had an head start.
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| Of course, let's not forget Bradford won SL in it's last season of the league leader format in 1997.
Bulls 4 Rhinos 3
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| SL has been great this year- Plenty of competitive games- Leeds v Quins being a rarity- Cas/Huds was a captivating game for the neutral on Fri.
It can only go from strength to strength and good to see plenty of British youngster getting games.
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| SL will remain e until Wigan start winning things, should that ever happen.
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| Quote ="snowdog"there have been no classic super league games this season because of the top 8 play off system.it has watered down the competetiveness of super league.as a wigan poster stated earlier in the thread,they have had average seasons but have stepped up to the mark at the play off stage.
the super league season is just a long warm up to the play offs.for that reason i am not happy with sl at the moment.bring back the top 5'"
Totally agree... I would go far as to say that this is probably one of the worst superleague seasons fo games with intensity.
Games are a lot closer now because the rules and the way the game is reffed, its down to 5 wrestle tackles and then a kick.
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| Quote ="Judder Man" its down to 5 wrestle tackles and then a kick.'"
Thats the Whinos only way of play!
They have no other options and boy is it BORING!!!
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Thats the Whinos only way of play!
They have no other options and boy is it BORING!!!'" dont forget successful
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| The standards now are clearly better than what they were in the early years of summer rugby. We don't get the amount of 40-30 tryfests that we seemed to get and this season they hasn't been many one sided games. Whilst the Huddersfield-Castleford game wasn't the greatest game by any means it was a tense affair which was only put beyond doubt by Chases drop goal at the end. I'll rather have a low scoring battle over a high scoring tryfest any day.
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| Quote ="Red Red Robin"The standards now are clearly better than what they were in the early years of summer rugby. We don't get the amount of 40-30 tryfests that we seemed to get and this season they hasn't been many one sided games. Whilst the Huddersfield-Castleford game wasn't the greatest game by any means it was a tense affair which was only put beyond doubt by Chases drop goal at the end. I'll rather have a low scoring battle over a high scoring tryfest any day.'" id take an intense high quality game with tough defenses only broken by skill and clever play over the slow, forward based, scruffy ptb unforced error-athons we are getting this year regardless of the score
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| Quote ="Red Red Robin"The standards now are clearly better than what they were in the early years of summer rugby. We don't get the amount of 40-30 tryfests that we seemed to get and this season they hasn't been many one sided games. Whilst the Huddersfield-Castleford game wasn't the greatest game by any means it was a tense affair which was only put beyond doubt by Chases drop goal at the end. I'll rather have a low scoring battle over a high scoring tryfest any day.'" You're wrong, the games are more competitive these days, but at the expense of quality, the standard of rugby these days is definately worse than it was 5 years ago. Some people could argue that the salary cap is working.
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| Quote ="Bilko"Maybe I would say it as a Wigan fan but I think the quality in the league is dire and I think this is reflected by the standard of the national team.
Wigan have been average at best for the last two seasons in my view but yet FACT IS at the end of the play offs we have been nearest behind Saints and Leeds at winning the Grand Final. That says it all to me - if I think we have been average what does that make the rest of the league?
We still have far too many overseas players, most of which I think offer nothing bar the exceptions of rare gems like Michael Dobson and Matt Gidley and I agree with the post by "Judderman". I too cannot remember a classic game from this season that I've seen on Sky.
Maybe it's just me but the league seems to have gone more power and less skill and this does not make for as entertaining a game as say 5/6 years ago.
Of course Hull KR fans will think different, its a generation since they were top of the table but for me compared to 5/6 years a go the league the quality is not the same.'" Check which teams fans are happy with it fella it aint just us
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| Quote ="fcimp"You're wrong, the games are more competitive these days, but at the expense of quality, the standard of rugby these days is definately worse than it was 5 years ago. Some people could argue that the salary cap is working.'"
I’d rather watch the Rhinos team of five years ago than this one.
Leeds Rhinos 2004 was without the best attacking rugby [usuper league[/u has ever witness.
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| So in conclusion Leeds (The 1 of the current big 2 too be spluttering with a possbility to not be 1st or 2nd), FC (Awful this year even though their fans think they should get/deserve more ) and Wigan (Think they are gods gift but find themselves outside the playoffs AGAIN ) fans dont like it but almost everybody else does.
Go figure
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I’d rather watch the Rhinos team of five years ago than this one.
Leeds Rhinos 2004 was without the best attacking rugby [usuper league[/u has ever witness.'"
So it's Leeds letting the competition down then?
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