Modern one only count every other fan to dodge the taxman

That's easy. You divide the age of Murrayfield, in minutes by (the volume of concrete in the west stand in cubits / the weight of 23 Brazilian anacondas in pounds avoirdupois) = 17

(which is the number of actual paying customers).

Ah, the RFU/IRB method.

Didn't 73 billion people (or other life forms) watch the last Union World Cup final?

WTF? Are you seriously saying that when you buy a season ticket – or pass - at Hull, you're only counted as attending one game, no matter how many you actually go to? Because I don't believe for one minute that that's the case.

Not sure how many season passes Hull has sold, but I believe it's in the throusands – and I don't believe the Hull posted attendance drops by Xthousand season ticket holders from the second home game on.,

I suspect he means that if you get a season pass, but don't go to one of the games for whatever reason, then you won't be counted in the attendance figures at that game rather than being counted as attending every game irrespective of if you go or not.

That (the idea not the post) makes no sense, surely fire, health and safety regs mean all stadia have to count attendance as accurately as possible?

Of course you're not counted if you're not there. Why would you be?

It is an "attendance" figure". It isn't an "attendance + season ticket holders" figure.

You'd think so wouldn't you but apparently not


clueless

you wouldn't be. Which is what I said.



(and technically, it would be attendance + non attending season ticket holders

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I dont know if what he implied was true or not, I don't know enough about how those things work but whooosh you lot missed his point completely.
Clueless? thats you big boy, considering what he said has absolutely nothing to do with what youre on about

Come on. we are waiting for the cutting edge way of counting an attendance...

And we will wait a good while

ok really modern stadiums have computerised counters which lock each gate when its allocation has gone, there results in total are sent to a central database for crowd control reasons and official figures.

however......super league attendance figures, god knows, i heard at one point these kids tickets that are a tenner was so each club could include each one in every away gane
so for example if wakey has sold 300 its 300 every time we play away regardless of whether they go.

strangley if thats true its a very easy way of hitting the 8000 target.

and also if kids get freebies to be part of entertainment etc do they count?

Thats just madness, running a business and declaring to the taxman a higher income than you actually have??



And freebies do count its people through the door, not what they paid that counts.

no your missing the point
income has nothing to do with attendances, its a balance sheet item on the clubs accounts. far easier to fiddle the kids entry to parent than the attnedance, especially if you used shared gates.

i am merely asking what the real criteria for the super league franchise 8000 attendance target includes / excludes.

No they don't, attendance must be an accurate figure of who is in the ground, this is a H&S requirement.



Yes.

That might be why you get different figures announced for the same game, never knew that.

ok a kid and a parent goes through same turnstile pays 18 poundS plus say 6 pounds

= 24 quid
nice and easy

two parents and one kid - 42 pounds
one parent and 2 kids - 30 pounds


no tickets issued, no audit trail so one puts through two parents and one child as one parent and two children, the beuty of a shared turnstile
and far greater percentage than fiddling the attendance

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easy peasy
cash is ok at all levels you just can manipulte who that cash was for, so long as there is no tickets for adults and children issued at the gate.

then you play around with non turnstile entries in corporate and season ticket holders in stands and jobs a good un.

er thats in theory of course, i would frown upon any club that did this.

You're making this sh#t up as you go along, aren't you!?!

However, whenever a SL match is a sell out, the announced attendance is usually given as the ground capacity - which is almost impossible, given some season ticket holders are surely going to be on holiday or at work or otherwise unable to attend.

Not seen too many sell out matches to judge mate.

Been a few Hull FC - KR, Wigan/Saints, Wire/Saints as examples.