Propaganda I'm afraid. He paints such a rosy picture, but if that were the case, they wouldn't be living in their overdraft. It's poor business, they should have instructed Natwest when they made the deal with the RFL and not gone ahead with it.

This Coral stand that cost £3m cash then? What kind of revenue does that generate?

Forgive me Adey, but whats RBS's involvement in this then? Do they own NatWest?

Yes.

Yes.

Cheers.

Still think it's the BOD's fault. Not Natwest/RBS. Just like it wasn't the mystery predators fault the rfl had to take the Odsal lease to repay themselves for a loan that i guess was going to default.

I hope the posters on the Wakefield board haven’t missed the irony of your constant digs at Bradfords board considering the near jihad you have declared on anyone who criticised bent Ted and his nepotism?

Your running in circles over this has been a joy to watch.

Smokey, you've lost - game, set and match mate - it's over for you

lovin it. Trying to get elements of the Trinity faithful on my case is true desperation, still you may get a few nibbles even though that was a completely different issue - go for it mate.

I'd pull back to make my point some of your pedantry, overblown, long winded, snide, pointless and incredibly pompous past posts praising the management of SL and the Bulls - but I fear if I did I might take down the internet and I don't want that on my conscience - I don't have your lack of morality.

Not really, tells us zip.

Might tell YOU Zip.

To those with a bit more about them, it should tell them quite a lot.

The bulls were run well in the past, that’s is beyond debate, they grew massively, made profits, were successful on the field, brought through quality young players and invested in their facilities (things bent Ted and his family didn’t do). They haven’t been well run recently and you wont find any praise of Mr Hood from me, I’ve thought he was a bit of a joke since he demanded 2 points back over tanseygate affair and the “woe is me, big bad Leeds are being big and bad and mean to us” statements he made about the Harris case.

But if it makes you feel better to pretend I have praised Mr Hood and his management crack on,

But keep on squirming and pretending bent Ted and his nepotism and running of Wakefield are a wildly different circumstance. Its been good to watch.

Keep the faith Adey. It's just spin, so what if they did or didn't use Odsal as security the debt is still the same.

Also the statement not correct anyway. You can have more than one call on the ground as collateral so long as the valuation gives you the equity.

I have two mortgages on my property with a BS and a Bank, it's no different in business.

Are you really so stubborn or so thick - you decide. They were not a success clearly, the business was built on sand - a mixture of borrowed money and borrowed time. It was simply a financial time bomb waiting to explode.

The fact that you're twisting yourself inside out to defend a club you don't even support shows just how culpable you really are. Your arguments have been shown to be utterly fraudulent end of.

Practice this in the mirror, very slowly to start with - don't want an unfortunate on my hands.

I g.o.t..i.t..v.e.r.y..v.e.r.y..w.r.o.n.g..a.n.d.I'.m..s.o.r.r.y......

Unsurprisingly RBS disagree.



Given Hood's previous I'm inclined to believe the bank, which proves how much I distrust Hood.

Where is your evidence for this being the case? Where is your evidence that the current problems suffered by the bulls are down to historic debts for 5+ years ago? Or is it just another thing you have made up? Because you seem to be making a lot of things up at the moment just so you can revel in the Bulls problems, which to be honest seems a very very strange thing to do!

Im also not sure where I have defended the current Bulls administration anywhere, at any time, even now. Though considering they are still getting higher attendences, still have better youth development, still have better facilities, and are still higher in the league than Wakefield, Im don’t know why you think you are in a position to look down on them.

From the Hood statement...."When, subsequently, the Club arranged a new overdraft with NatWest the bank now had substantial extra security in the form of land and buildings worth multiple millions of pounds."

The land obviously has a value, but would the bank consider the Coral stand worth £3.6 million?

It only has a value to someone who wants it and it only has a value to the Bulls when they are doing well. I don't really know how these things work, but would the bank really consider this security?

Da da da da da da da da da da VASTMAN

The lease on the stadium was of little if any value for security purposes. Since it would not survive the insolvency of the club, and the club was not anyway empowered to assign the lease or otehrwise develop the site without the council's permission. It had no book vlaue.

The cash they received from the RFL for the sale of the leasehold interest, by contrast, DID have value.

The Bulls' statement today was in direct response to that RBS statement, which they are livid over. They have been so busy that they were not even aware till today what RBS had said.

But fine by me if folk want to let prejudice blind them.

It's only March - that really is weak - there above Saints as well SO WHAT.

Higher attendances, not much use if your clearly giving them away! We got 7,200 against Catalan so I feel no need to be apologetic on this one.

Better facilities, that's debatable in the extreme. They have some flats at one end, loads of open terraces (at least ours are now covered by a bus shelter roof as you put it in your snide little way) and they have a seated stand down one side - sound familiar. Difference is at least at BV your somewhere near the pitch.

As for looking down on them please give up on the fake matey matey stuff, I'm not looking down on anyone except the losers on the BOD - or am I supposed to look up to Robbing Hood and his gang. The BOD want the cash donation for one reason, so they can get their guarantees paid back before it finally blows, it's obvious.

You really are losing it if this is your best effort.

There's no "prejudice" on my part so I'll let you leave the cheap shots for others, thanks. I'd have thought you of all people would have wanted a bit more proof before believing anything certain members of the club's management and board said, even publicly. From my non-partisan view RBS have little to gain from lying in public. Others, well, it wouldn't be the first time would it?

And for pretty much every season for the last 20? how do we explain them?
well done, thats only 30% less than Bradfords average 70% less than Hulls average and less than half of Leeds and Wigans average. Well done indeed.
I called it a petrol station forecourt roof sweetheart, your lack of ability to read is just, well its a little bit sad. And I dont think you will find many neutrals who prefer belle vue to Odsal. Odsal on a summer day is a great ground to watch RL in.
Who says its fake? Just because everyone thinks you are a kn0b doesn’t mean everyone thinks everyone else is kn0b.
So no evidence of Bradfords problems being down to what they were spending 5+years ago as you asserted? No examples of me defending Mr Hood as you asserted? No argument of why your Digs at the Bradford’s BoD isn’t hypocritical considering your holy war in defence of bent Ted and his family? I think we can just take that as your admission that you have no evidence, you invented my defence of Mr Hood in your silly little head and you accept your hypocrisy you are just hoping we all ignore it.

This has been fun though, like when I pretend throw the ball for my dog and he runs for a little bit before realising he has been tricked. I want to ruffle your hair.

The studied condescension of the last sentence condemn you to the losers chair of life. Your gone mate, out for the count, you have nothing left.

So Ted bent but Hoody somehow isn't - odd that Ted has never been charged with any wrong doing by anyone other than you and a few speculators.

I answered your willy measuring post and my reply indicate we are in decent health and at worst are guilty of being average. Still if average is not good enough for you and your master race manifesto then so be it - it's not like I want you as a friend.

Frankly you bore me now more than ever and that was as bored as I'd ever been.

That's a fair point. Other than as scrap a £3.6m football stand has no value to anyone purchasing the site to use, for example, as a haulage distribution centre.

It would be interesting to know why the bank seems to have disregarded the personal guarantees.

Yet he still doesn’t see it. He doesn’t see the circles he is talking in. I almost feel sorry for you.
Where have I defended Hood? I have told you numerous times that I haven’t, and wouldn’t defend him yet your fallback is to continually accuse me of defending him without ever being able to provide one example where I have. Its an almost wilful level of idiocy vastpants.
So you have hit average and are happy with it, now you want to have a dig at others who achieved a hell of a lot more, and for at least some time where better than average because they have fallen on hard times because it makes you feel better about never having been better than mediocre. What an awful awful thing to need.
You don’t bore me, I do want to be your friend, you are unintentionally hilarious.

Big tantrum at the end which amused

but basically