Like Paris in 1996.

Please can i give you my pension fund to invest? You decide where. I trust you 100%.

Catalans aren't an "expansion team" any more than Toulouse are. Both areas are heartland areas just not in England.

Did you consider Gold Coast Titans to be "expansion" or did you think "fair enough, Gold Coast is a good place for a pro team, there seems to be the interest there"?

Bowes' team would be Coventry Bears.

Is it possible to be a Coventry fan and also a flatcapper?

it looks like he certainly can

like widnes 2 years ago.

follow the logic.

france has shown in the past it likes RL.

RL is still established there

very little chance of failure

typical flatcapper

care to explain why leeds and wigan also failed and had to be sold to new owners.

imagine a SL without Leeds & wigan

keep trying.

the population of the central coast exceeds widnes, leigh and barrow combined.

its population is also growing at 14% pa.

its a growth area.

the NRL has no team there. soccer does. so we should expand the NRL into this area.

i really love this meaningless cliche

the titans are an expansion team to me.

No the south of France has shown in the past it like RL

Paris has shown in the past it couldn't care less about RL

A bit like the UK only the other way round

Just like Paris St German before?

And what about Milwaukee or Jacksonville? They shown that they like RL why not go there?

Try again stupid. What has population got to do with whether something's expansion or not?

Also Perth has ten times the population of the Central Coast, so your hypocracy falls down here too as everywhere else

I can't understand why even with your pure stupidity you think that stating the fact that what happened in the early 1960s is irrelevant to 2009, and that the sport was run very differently, makes me a flatcapper.

You're the flatcapper not me, albeit from an Australian point of view

A cork hatter?

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and Widnes, Oldham, Halifax, etc, etc, etc



we should do

Do yourself a favour and stop showing yourself up by trying to claim supporters of expansion clubs are flatcappers, you do yourself no favours and show you can't argue rationally without using the word flatcapper to anyone that has a different view to yourself, even where that label is not remotely relevant.

People that don't want a repeat of Gateshead or Paris St Germain are not flatcappers, they are sensible people.

Actually can I ask the moderators to put flatcapper on the list of banned words on here edited out by the swear filter like they did with expansion*zi? If it were banned it would mean people have to think about what they say and allow better argument

its not really is it, it isnt a 'heartland' club, there were a few thousand real RL fans in Catalonia prior to Les Catalans entering SL, now there are many many more

Lets not try and rewrite history and pretend it always was, and was always perceived to be a 'sleeping giant' it wasnt,

Putting Les Catalans in SL was probably the biggest risk taken by SL in its history

Neither Widnes nor Halifax has ever folded in 114 years of pro rugby league and noone suggests Oldham for Super League. After their two years of existance Paris folded and for about one and a half of those years they were propped up by RFL bailouts alone

Widnes folded less than 2 years ago,

and only 3 years ago Halifax went round RL grounds with a begging bowl for donations because they were on the brink of bankruptcy, the kindness of RL fans saved Halifax, not any intrinsic advantage

PSG was a poorly put together, poorly executed, poorly planned attempt, not all are

But we didnt fold, and we were saved by an investment by our ex chairman. Not by the kindness of RL fans.

Don't lie, there were many clubs, not that long ago there were 4 semi-pro clubs in the Perpignan area (before the merger to form UTC) and for big games they could get decent crowds. French rugby league was just in a low point when Catalans joined SL.

It wasn't a risk at all, the success was inevitable. Far more risky were the putting in of Paris, Gateshead, Crusaders and London. Of these the first two were huge failures, the third one is likely to be a failure (though it's too early to say with 100% certainty) and the fourth has only borderline as while they've done okay on the field they still don't attract the fans and never will

they needed to raise 90k did they not? with 55k coming from the RL fans begging bowl, and 35k from an ex-chairman

Liar, can you provide any evidence to back up your slanderous and malicious false accusations?

I'll give you a clue, going into administration is not folding

why pretend? Les Catalans werent a guaranteed success, and they very nearly werent a success at all, you do realise your revisionism will only fool the idiots dont you

the clubs in the Perpignan area were getting decent crowds for the french elite, but nothing comparable to SL or the championship and huge swathes of people were massively against them entering, and the same tired regurgitated arguments that are being levelled at Toulouse and Paris were levelled at them