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| Quote ="Willzay"The fact this is 30 pager just sums up how bad Kendall was.'"
It sums up how obsessed this forum are with St Helens not winning anything. A quite unhealthy obsession at that.
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| Masterful performance by Saints, and thoroughly deserved winners; they did get the benefit of the doubt from Mr Kendall a few times, but certainly didn't need it, nor did it have any bearing on the outcome of the game.
I certainly hope that their style of play percolates to other SL teams next season - they have played with a brilliant combination of hard work and flair all year, which is a refreshing change from the spoiling and cheating of some of their rivals.
Aside from the ill-advised ranting of their sour-faced Chairman after the Wembley defeat, Saints have been exemplary in 2019. Fair play.
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| I drove past Old Trafford before and the stench of Kendall’s biased performance is still stinking the place out
Ex military are programmed and brainwashed to take and follow orders; when Salford got back into it his training kicked in as planned.
But Salford like all classy clubs won’t embarrass themselves like Little Tommie Mc did for his Pygmy saints .
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| Having read the match reports on plenty of media outlets hardly any have even mentioned the referee. I've watched the game back since a few 50/50s did go our way in the second half but no way was the kind of howlers which seriously effected the result.
No suprise though is just how bitter Dire fans are at our success having scooped the prize they covert most of all. We achieve their dreams.
Saints have been a pleasure to watch all season and hopefully the incoming coach can kick this side on further. I see Wigan and Salford as our main threats next season.
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"Having read the match reports on plenty of media outlets hardly any have even mentioned the referee. I've watched the game back since a few 50/50s did go our way in the second half but no way was the kind of howlers which seriously effected the result.
No suprise though is just how bitter Dire fans are at our success having scooped the prize they covert most of all. We achieve their dreams.
Saints have been a pleasure to watch all season and hopefully the incoming coach can kick this side on further. I see Wigan and Salford as our main threats next season.'"
Wigan a defo..Salford no chance.even us at dire (as you put it)will fancy our chances with them..
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"Having read the match reports on plenty of media outlets hardly any have even mentioned the referee. I've watched the game back since a few 50/50s did go our way in the second half but no way was the kind of howlers which seriously effected the result.
No suprise though is just how bitter Dire fans are at our success having scooped the prize they covert most of all. We achieve their dreams.
Saints have been a pleasure to watch all season and hopefully the incoming coach can kick this side on further. I see Wigan and Salford as our main threats next season.'"
Have Salford announced any signings as there seems to be plenty on their way.
Needless to say, Hastings will be a massive, probably irreplaceable loss and with Toronto likely to spend big and be closer to the top than the bottom, Salford could be scrapping it out at the other end of the table next season.
Warrington will be in the play offs, along with Saints, Wigan, Hull, plus one other side.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Salford could be scrapping it out at the other end of the table next season.'"
Some people, it would seem, never learn...
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Have Salford announced any signings as there seems to be plenty on their way.
Needless to say, Hastings will be a massive, probably irreplaceable loss and with Toronto likely to spend big and be closer to the top than the bottom, Salford could be scrapping it out at the other end of the table next season.
Warrington will be in the play offs, along with Saints, Wigan, Hull, plus one other side.'"
Yeah they've let 7 go and signed-
Tui Lolohea
Chris Atkin
James Greenwood
Kevin Brown
Pauli Pauli
Connor Jones
Jack Ormondroyd
Dan Sarginson
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Yeah they've let 7 go and signed-
Tui Lolohea
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Pauli Pauli
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Jack Ormondroyd
Dan Sarginson'"
Plus possibly a couple more finance allowing.
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| Ian Watson will have his work cut out with that half back pairing coupled with the key players going out.
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"Having read the match reports on plenty of media outlets hardly any have even mentioned the referee. I've watched the game back since a few 50/50s did go our way in the second half but no way was the kind of howlers which seriously effected the result.
No suprise though is just how bitter Dire fans are at our success having scooped the prize they covert most of all. We achieve their dreams.
Saints have been a pleasure to watch all season and hopefully the incoming coach can kick this side on further. I see Wigan and Salford as our main threats next season.'"
If Salford can find some reasonable replacements for Hastings and Jones I think they will still be a force next season, its as though they have woken up, the players and fans have grasps that grand final achievement to kick on. They will probably overtake an average Warrington side and almost be on a par with Wigan, the important thing is that if they play a similar style to Saints then I don't see why they can't be top four again next year because I reckon Watson has gone up a notch being involved in that well earned grand final.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Have Salford announced any signings as there seems to be plenty on their way.
Needless to say, Hastings will be a massive, probably irreplaceable loss and with Toronto likely to spend big and be closer to the top than the bottom, Salford could be scrapping it out at the other end of the table next season.
Warrington will be in the play offs, along with Saints, Wigan, Hull, plus one other side.'"
I think your lot have a reasonable chance of another 5th placed finish once you get your injured players back. I doubt you'd have struggled as much as you did had they been available for most of the season.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"If Salford can find some reasonable replacements for Hastings and Jones I think they will still be a force next season, its as though they have woken up, the players and fans have grasps that grand final achievement to kick on. They will probably overtake an average Warrington side and almost be on a par with Wigan, the important thing is that if they play a similar style to Saints then I don't see why they can't be top four again next year because I reckon Watson has gone up a notch being involved in that well earned grand final.'"
That's not started well with Brown replacing Hastings.
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"I think your lot have a reasonable chance of another 5th placed finish once you get your injured players back. I doubt you'd have struggled as much as you did had they been available for most of the season.'"
Please don't we'll have that idiot jonno on the preach again
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| Quote ="Seth"Ian Watson will have his work cut out with that half back pairing coupled with the key players going out.'"
I also think it will be difficult to maintain the club solidarity Watson has built when so many leave/come in. I rate Watson and think our sport needs more like him so good luck to him.
I like the Atkin signing and I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Brown goes ok. Just not sure about a Lolohea / Brown combination as may not be enough pace there. One player Im surprised no-one has enquired about is Costello at Saints, he aint a world beater but he’s been solid for us and done a job when called upon. Id imagine he’d be low cost in a salary capped sport.
Glad to see the basket of deplorables and their faux controversy and righteous indignation have disappeared from this thread.
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"Glad to see the basket of deplorables and their faux controversy and righteous indignation have disappeared from this thread.'" The only thing which has disappeared is the respect McManus and St Helens had in the game.
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"I think your lot have a reasonable chance of another 5th placed finish once you get your injured players back. I doubt you'd have struggled as much as you did had they been available for most of the season.'"
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| Quote ="Judder Man"If Salford can find some reasonable replacements for Hastings and Jones I think they will still be a force next season, its as though they have woken up, the players and fans have grasps that grand final achievement to kick on. They will probably overtake an average Warrington side and almost be on a par with Wigan, the important thing is that if they play a similar style to Saints then I don't see why they can't be top four again next year because I reckon Watson has gone up a notch being involved in that well earned grand final.'"
I disagree. Without Hastings Salford fall out of the top five and plummet towards relegation contention.
Toronto, if they buy well (and SBW would be an example of buying well) will have a good shot at the top five. So too will Catalans with James "Jimmy wins" Maloney guiding the team around the park. Neither Salford nor Wakefield should trouble either of those teams.
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| Yes Salford are losing players but the coach is a huge influence.
Bar coote and Naqaima all the saints players in the final were at the club under cunning ham.
You can see the loss of so many players knocking Salford back a little whilst they take time to settle in, but the coach has done it once so given a couple of years Salford could be competing at the top again.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"The only thing which has disappeared is the respect McManus and St Helens had in the game.'"
Love it, McManus and Saints are truly stuck inside your head, but you are not alone.
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McManus tenure has seen his boyhood club master 21 trophies/titles in 23 seasons created top Academy and Ladies teams and provided a brand new rugby league purpose built stadium for this century all on a pittance compared to other millionaire club owners........................now that is what you call respect until the cesspit band wagon of social media erodes that perspective
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Love it, McManus and Saints are truly stuck inside your head, but you are not alone.
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McManus tenure has seen his boyhood club master 21 trophies/titles in 23 seasons created top Academy and Ladies teams and provided a brand new rugby league purpose built stadium for this century all on a pittance compared to other millionaire club owners........................now that is what you call respect until the cesspit band wagon of social media erodes that perspective'"
I would also add McManus has been an outstanding corporate citizen for the club/sport having used his business skills to champion and drive forward key initiatives for his town/region across areas such as economy, health and social well being.
But hey, why let facts get in the way of petty small mindedness and bigotry
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| SO much jealousy in this thread
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Love it, McManus and Saints are truly stuck inside your head, but you are not alone.
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Cool story.
My club has achieved plenty thanks, I've not had any axe to grind with Saints until this year, in fact I started to feel sorry for you after the fifth year of you being humbled. Although I'd note that, unlike McManus, our chairman keeps his thoughts to himself and has built a stable rugby league business fit for the future.
I congratulate Saints for winning. But it will take a long time to remove the shadow cast by the behaviour of fans and management after the cup final. Thank God Salford have more dignity in defeat.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Cool story.
My club has achieved plenty thanks, I've not had any axe to grind with Saints until this year, in fact I started to feel sorry for you after the fifth year of you being humbled. Although I'd note that, unlike McManus, our chairman keeps his thoughts to himself and has built a stable rugby league business fit for the future.
I congratulate Saints for winning. But it will take a long time to remove the shadow cast by the behaviour of fans and management after the cup final. Thank God Salford have more dignity in defeat.'"
Jealousy. Don't you just love it?
I'd more worry about your own yesterdays club which has spent most of the last few seasons embarrassing themselves near the relegation zone than about McManus having a moan after Wembley.
Oh and stick your phoney 'congrats'.
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