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| if you were expecting details from a statement saying "we are planning to make changes and are in consultation with the clubs and taking feedback from them" then your a ing idiot.
Its a consultation paper, it says its a consultation paper, it is part of the process to get to the details. You would have to be particularly stupid to not understand the obvious reasons the details would be limited in a press release about a consultation paper.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Leigh already run a very successful [ award winning in fact community dept and find the funding for it , so if others dont , will they be funded centrally ? , and if they are , will clubs that have already done the hard work be given the same money to spend elsewhere ?'"
According to the article in League Express the clubs all get one third of the allocated funding unconditionally with the rest of the funding given if they meet RFL standards on community, player development and financial stability.
If that is the case then they would have to be running the club well to get the funding. They might recoup the costs later by obtaining the funding but they have to do the work first to get it. A club already running a community dept (like Leigh) could then use the funds released (effectively spare money) on other areas (such as running an academy) to further improve the club overall.
If on the other hand a club is happy to kick around at the bottom of Champ 1 running on a third of everyone else's funds and not running community departments or academies then that is their choice but they will not get the same cash as clubs that do run those areas.
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| Quote ="wiganermike"=#FF0000According to the article in League Express the clubs all get one third of the allocated funding unconditionally with the rest of the funding given if they meet RFL standards on community, player development and financial stability.
If that is the case then they would have to be running the club well to get the funding. They might recoup the costs later by obtaining the funding but they have to do the work first to get it. A club already running a community dept (like Leigh) could then use the funds released (effectively spare money) on other areas (such as running an academy) to further improve the club overall.
If on the other hand a club is happy to kick around at the bottom of Champ 1 running on a third of everyone else's funds and not running community departments or academies then that is their choice but they will not get the same cash as clubs that do run those areas.'"
So why didn't they say that in the Statement , all a lot clearer , see it wasn't hard at all was it
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| Quote ="wiganermike"According to the article in League Express the clubs all get one third of the=#FF0000 allocated funding unconditionally with the rest of the funding given if they meet RFL standards on community, player development and financial stability.
If that is the case then they would have to be running the club well to get the funding. They might recoup the costs later by obtaining the funding but they have to do the work first to get it. A club already running a community dept (like Leigh) could then use the funds released (effectively spare money) on other areas (such as running an academy) to further improve the club overall.
If on the other hand a club is happy to kick around at the bottom of Champ 1 running on a third of everyone else's funds and not running community departments or academies then that is their choice but they will not get the same cash as clubs that do run those areas.'"
Did it mention a figure ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"I dont , Leigh already run a very successful [ award winning in fact community dept and find the funding for it , so if others dont , will they be funded centrally ? , and if they are , will clubs that have already done the hard work be given the same money to spend elsewhere ?'"
Why would those be funded centrally? What have you heard or read that would give you that impression?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Did it mention a figure ?'"
No. But that won't be mentioned anyway until it is set in stone. Level of funds being dependant on the new TV deal. The LE article did mention Championship clubs each getting more money than Champ 1 clubs under the new proposed structure.
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| Quote ="Richie"Why would those be funded centrally? What have you heard or read that would give you that impression?'"
Thats why I asked for the real meaning of this ?
=#FF0000reward the clubs who make the most positive contribution to Rugby League.
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| Quote ="wiganermike"No. But that won't be mentioned anyway until it is set in stone. =#FF0000Level of funds being dependant on the new TV deal. The LE article did mention Championship clubs each getting more money than Champ 1 clubs under the new proposed structure.'"
Cant be , it states ' Central ' funding doesn't it , thats not SKY money
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| Quote ="Starbug"Thats why I asked for the real meaning of this ?
=#FF0000reward the clubs who make the most positive contribution to Rugby League.'"
and you translated that as "the RFL will centrally fund community departments" ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Cant be , it states ' Central ' funding doesn't it , thats not SKY money'"
That's just what it said in the LE article that the level of funding was dependant on the TV deal.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Cant be , it states ' Central ' funding doesn't it , thats not SKY money'"
you think that the money that comes from Sky and is then given to the lower leagues doesnt come from 'central funding'
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"you think that the money that comes from Sky and is then given to the lower leagues doesnt come from 'central funding''"
It doesn't in SDL
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| Quote ="Richie"and you translated that as "the RFL will centrally fund community departments" ?
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Not directly no ,but if you reread pages 1 and 2 you will see how we got to this point
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| Quote ="wiganermike"No. But that won't be mentioned anyway until it is set in stone. Level of funds being dependant on the new TV deal. The LE article did mention Championship clubs each getting more money than Champ 1 clubs under the new proposed structure.'"
So we will all get 1/3 rd of the available funding but we dont know how much that funding is ?
Whats a 3 rd of nothing ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"It doesn't in SDL
'" of course it does, Sky doesnt pay each club individually.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not directly no ,but if you reread pages 1 and 2 you will see how we got to this point'"
better use of time would be reading the actual press release. [size=85(without thinking it part of a conspiracy theory that is!)[/size
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not directly no ,but if you reread pages 1 and 2 you will see how we got to this point'"
I can see how you got to that point. No one else seemed to. You have to have an odd way way to reading to translate it to that.
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"Hemel Stags. Possibly Nottingham Outlaws and at a push Coventry Bears.'"
Do you really think so? I havn't seen them play but i'd guess that Skolars would batter them.
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| Quote ="mmp"=#FF0000better use of time would be reading the actual press release. [size=85(without thinking it part of a conspiracy theory that is!)[/size'"
Yes , just read it again , it hasn't changed since I read it the 1 st time , or the 2 nd or the 3 rd
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| but sadly the part in parenthesis is clearly beyond you!
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| Quote ="Richie"I can see how you got to that point. No one else seemed to. You have to have an odd way way to reading to translate it to that.'"
I just asked questions , unfortunatley it seems they couldn't be answered , apart from the all clubs getting a guaranteed 3 rd of the available funding , but we dont know how much the funding is yet ?, so we dont know how much a 3 rd of the funding is yet ? , or exactly what clubs will have to achieve to get the other 2 3rds
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"of course it does, Sky doesnt pay each club individually.'"
So it is Central funding ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"I just asked questions , unfortunatley it seems they couldn't be answered , apart from the all clubs getting a guaranteed 3 rd of the available funding , but we dont know how much the funding is yet ?, so we dont know how much a 3 rd of the funding is yet ? , or exactly what clubs will have to achieve to get the other 2 3rds'"
...and that lack of answers led you to believe community departments would be funded centrally by the RFL?
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| Quote ="Starbug"I just asked questions , unfortunatley it seems they couldn't be answered , apart from the all clubs getting a guaranteed 3 rd of the available funding , but we dont know how much the funding is yet ?, so we dont know how much a 3 rd of the funding is yet ? , or exactly what clubs will have to achieve to get the other 2 3rds'"
but that level of detail wouldnt be expected in a press release!...and seeing this is a consultation process (and go to the amateur pages to see what I think of certain RFL consultation processes at the minute) the information is hardly likely to be fixed anyway.
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