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| Quote ="Starbug"I wouldn't be happy with it no , I accept it happens in professional sport , as I am a realist'"
So you put the game before your club.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"So you put the game before your club.'"
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| I would have my flesh stripped from my body to safeguard top flight clubs and the bigwigs at Red Hall.
I'm Spartacus.
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| Quote ="TonyGee"I would put my club first above all but i wouldnt be too dissapointed if Widnes had Crowds of 10k and were struggling to compete with Wire/Wigan/Leeds/London/Crusaders/Bradford etc because they were all getting 40k crowds each week and we just couldnt compete.
I would be far less happy watching Widnes in The championship while clubs post Shocking crowds and show no real progression as a club.
The questions should maybe be...
Would you be happy for the RFL to expel your club from SL to fastrack a club From Glasgow into SL for the good of the game. Regardless of your Support, Structures, And facilities. And regardless of theirs?'" You are putting the cart before the horse
SL is, unfortunately, the only nationally recognised RL division. People in Glasgow have no idea what the championships are or who the teams in it are. We arent going to sell RL to scotland, long term, through the lower leagues.
So they will always need to admit expansions clubs before they are better than heartland clubs. Its simple pragmatism.
If Leeds were the 'worst' of the teams in SL, and we needed to drop them to bring in a club from a new area that had the backing and the potential to exceed where we could be, then whilst i wouldnt be happy with it. I would understand that what it is what is best for the sport and what would need to happen.
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| Smokey's my hero. The modern day Walter Raleigh. God bless yer sacrifices sir.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Smokey's my hero. The modern day Walter Raleigh. God bless yer sacrifices sir.'"
its no sacrifice. Its a preference.
If disaster were to happen, and Leeds were to go, whilst i would be sad, i would get over it. I would still enjoy watching 13 blokes belting 7 shades out of each other to try and put an rubber inflatable egg over a line. Just because id have to watch 13 guys in different coloured shirts with a different name try and put that rubber inflatable egg over a line in a different stadium doesnt mean i would no longer enjoy it.
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| Quote ="Rommel"I would love Hull to go out of superleague for the good of the game'"
I was unaware that Hull was your club. Good choice of club to support there, well done
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"its no sacrifice. Its a preference.
If disaster were to happen, and Leeds were to go, whilst i would be sad, i would get over it. I would still enjoy watching 13 blokes belting 7 shades out of each other to try and put an rubber inflatable egg over a line. Just because id have to watch 13 guys in different coloured shirts with a different name try and put that rubber inflatable egg over a line in a different stadium doesnt mean i would no longer enjoy it.'"
You'd probably enjoy it more in a better stadium
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| What I find interesting for me is that I will say yes on this quite easily. However, that is likely because I now live in the states and haven't been able to go to a game for over three years. I still love the team, but I also feel I am more a fan of the sport as a whole now.
However, in terms of what is good for the game, I would need to see a long term strategy in place in order for me to be happy about that. If it was just a back of a cig packet idea then definitely no.
I would also be perfectly happy for Quins, Crusaders and Catalans to get double funding (to be spent strategically on growing the game and club, not just in players pockets) for the next 10 years since I feel they are important areas. But Equally, I want to see something done for the lower leagues since I feel this area has been neglected.
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| Quote ="TonyGee"I would put my club first above all but i wouldnt be too dissapointed if Widnes had Crowds of 10k and were struggling to compete with Wire/Wigan/Leeds/London/Crusaders/Bradford etc because they were all getting 40k crowds each week and we just couldnt compete.
I would be far less happy watching Widnes in The championship while clubs post Shocking crowds and show no real progression as a club.
The questions should maybe be...
Would you be happy for the RFL to expel your club from SL to fastrack a club From Glasgow into SL for the good of the game. Regardless of your Support, Structures, And facilities. And regardless of theirs?'" That wouldn't be good for the game, would it? If a strong club was undeservingly kicked out for a much weaker club, that would be a very bad thing and I don't think anyone would support it.
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| Quote ="Starbug"You'd probably enjoy it more in a better stadium
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My seat in the Carnegie stand is lovely. As good as any I have watched RL in.
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| Quote ="headhunter"That wouldn't be good for the game, would it? If a strong club was undeservingly kicked out for a much weaker club, that would be a very bad thing and I don't think anyone would support it.'"
Apart from Celtic? Twice in administration. We have to help these weaker clubs to aid expansion. Thank God you're not in charge - Celtic and Quins would be doomed. Remove your flat cap and think long term.
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| Club over Game for me i'm afraid to say. Don't get me wrong I love the game but if Leigh were to fold then I think my interest in the sport would fade slowly over time.
Todays game live at Leigh has made my weekend with a fantastic performance. Been looking forward to it all week and will put me in a good mood for days.
Whereas Hull v Leeds on sky made an enjoyable 80 minutes before I went out.
I'll do a lot to support the game and go to plenty of internationals/CC finals and went Old Trafford again last season but I am a Leigh fan first and foremost.
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| NO! We took 15 years to get in it, blowed if I would agree to them dropping out so some city with no interest and little sustainability could come in just to appease a media that treats us like cr4p anyway!
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| I like how people think 'the good of the game' automatically means replacing a strong club with a small failure club like Harlequins. This is a stupid thread.
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| Quote ="headhunter"I like how people think 'the good of the game' automatically means replacing a strong club with a small failure club like Harlequins.=#FF0000 This is a stupid thread.'"
Yes it is , just like the other one with the poll in it , thats why I started it , so away you go mods get it locked
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| Quote ="headhunter" This is a stupid thread.'"
And you've contributed to much of the stupidity. Welcome to the world of forums.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes it is , just like the other one with the poll in it , thats why I started it , so away you go mods get it locked'"
The thread simply asked if fans would be prepared to accept a detriment to their club in favour of a benefit to the game as a whole. I imagine all those who said they would, would. Whether or not they'd take that to the Nth degree like you have suggested is another thing, but I've already shown how silly such fantasy scenarios are in making an argument. Then again, why you've gone on this multi-thread crusade about it is puzzling enough. I still don't understand why you didn't just accept at face value what other posters have stated as their own opinion.
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| Love to read all the posts on here. Just wonder what they are going to be doing when RL is taken over by RU and all you are doing is watching Wigan and 13 RU teams on telly.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Love to read all the posts on here. Just wonder what they are going to be doing when RL is taken over by RU and all you are doing is watching Wigan and 13 RU teams on telly.'"
They won't waste their time with Championship Clubs. Remember those? They sit untidily outside what you think rugby league is - Super League. When the car-park and hamper brigade take over, come down and have a look. It's a bit like Super League only the kits are dirtier and there are no valets in the toilets. Sadly there are no Ken Davy's down here though.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"NO! We took 15 years to get in it, blowed if I would agree to them dropping out so some city with no interest and little sustainability could come in just to appease a media that treats us like cr4p anyway!'"
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"The thread simply asked if fans would be prepared to accept a detriment to their club in favour of a benefit to the game as a whole. I imagine all those who said they would, would. Whether or not they'd take that to the Nth degree like you have suggested is another thing, but I've already shown how silly such fantasy scenarios are in making an argument. Then again, why you've gone on this multi-thread crusade about it is puzzling enough. I still don't understand why you didn't just accept at face value what other posters have stated as their own opinion.'"
I do accept their opinions , unfortunatly they don't seem to accept mine , I've taken it to the ninth degree quite simply because it is a nonsense and my multiple thread ' crusade ' as you put it shows how much of a nonsense it is , if you don't like it , don't contribute , it is after all a stupid pointless thread
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| Quote ="littlerich"They won't waste their time with Championship Clubs. Remember those? They sit untidily outside what you think rugby league is - Super League. When the car-park and hamper brigade take over, come down and have a look. It's a bit like Super League only the kits are dirtier and there are no valets in the toilets. Sadly there are no Ken Davy's down here though.'"
I do occasionally get to watch Gateshead do they count
I take my youngest so he can practice counting up to 60 ( usually of points conceded).
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| More than happy for Quins RL to drop out "fir" the good of the game........but how super would super league be without Ruperts millions?
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| Quote ="Starbug"I do accept their opinions , unfortunatly they don't seem to accept mine ,'"
Of course they accept yours! It was you calling other people liars, [inot[/i the other way around! You've since gone on to try and prove it by asking people to consider a caricature of the original question. The only interpretation of "would you put the good of the game before the good of your club" you've been willing to consider is "would you want your team to drop out of SL so a smaller club could take it's place". As I said earlier, I can put the welfare of my child before the welfare of my wife without shooting my wife in the head. But then why you would feel the need to come up with these scenarios in order to weaken the testimonies of those who said they put the game first is still a mystery. Is it really that important to you to prove your theory that nobody puts the game first?
Quote I've taken it to the ninth degree quite simply because it is a nonsense and my multiple thread ' crusade ' as you put it shows how much of a nonsense it is'"
It shows how hung up on this you are mate. I mean the James Child thread? What's that about? It's as though people saying they'd put the game first has got to you so much that every thread you've been in since has you posting replies that would be better suited to this or the original thread. I mean your first two posts in the original thread saw you calling people liars then uneducated idiots. Am I missing something because I wouldn't have thought that was the sort of response deserved of saying I support the game first and foremost.
Quote it is after all a stupid pointless thread'"
Your words, not mine.
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