So whats your opinion On the team dominating possession and camping in their 20 for the first twenty minutes yet coming away with nothing.
That in my opinion lost us the game because most teams would have put points on the board.

james clark is my guess or maybe chemical ali is back

35 Years, it would be longer, but it wasn't possible.

Hull FC’s last 25 home games stretching back to June 2018:

W L L L L L

L W L L W W L W W W L W L L L L

W L L

Just nine wins........... Hard Crowd to please???

My post was in reply to a post about the lack of, off your seat entertainment, I was just pointing out that it does exist, even if people say it doesn't.

It happens. Saints wre camped on the Sydney line for twenty minutes last week, and couldn't register points either.

We did put 24 unanswered points on Catalans yesterday though.


So, some periods of the game were more rewarding than others, I suppose.

I didn't realise deep down that you are such a sensitive little soul.
Any stick to beat somebody with at this minute in time would be more my guess.
Same old same old, innit?
When the going gets a bit tough.........................

YEah but the problem is the entertaining rugby at the Kcom invariably comes from the other team

Is this post referring to radford?

Instead of trying to be a smart @r5e insinuating I've claimed to know the salaries of players, which I haven't.
Maybe you should have read the preseason interview with Pearson when he informed us we were spending over cap and joined in the debate then.

Is that clear enough for you anyway and maybe you could enlighten us with your views on Radford instead of trying to score cheap points, which has clearly backfired and made yourself look like a bell.
Just saying.

Instead of insulting other fans and talking in clichés why don't you just offer us your take on Radford and our current situation?

The going is currently tough but with the squad available it shouldn't be.
Losing, people can take it's the same definciencies displayed over the last few seasons and still now that are vexing fans.
Unless we have our best 17 available to steam roller the opposition there seems to be no variation to our play save for the odd flash of brilliance or individual play.
There's no way a professional rugby team should have thrown an 18 point lead away but credit to Catalan for exploiting our weaknesses.
I never have wanted Radford to fail but our limitations are known to all, don't seem to have been rectified and we appear easy to nullify.
As my old school report says, 'could do better', which sums us up.

Well Tag has made a rod for his own back with his HDM article!! Expecting him to bash the Wakefield pack all night now!

5 games in.
Things can change quickly hopefully with a positive result Friday.
If they don't then the majority on here will probably get their wishes and have a load of socks to wash.
Cliche United

How many seasons do we just press the reset button though?
It's not about sock washing but just sick of the same old failings.
Something has to give surely?
I do want a successful season and a competitive team but as yet this season is just a continuation of what has gone on before.

Our second row partnership of Ma'u and Jones have played once together so far, Leeds away. Savelio, who started like an house on fire, has missed the last 3 games. Satae has missed two of the five, Kelly has only played once. Faraimo has missed 3 of the 5 games, Ratu has only played two and half games, Swift only 2 games. Bowden, Ellis, Houghton and Carlos have all missed a game each, and Connor has missed half a game. And we were very close to being 3 wins from 5 during a tough run of fixtures. And we're in the plus for points difference. You don't need to panic just yet, we're not going as badly as it seems.

So what you're saying is then that unless we have our starting 13 on the field to implement our 1 and only tactic we're going to struggle. I think that is evident


I appreciate you're a glass half full fan but your reasoning is flawed as we wouldn't know how we would have fared regardless and 3 of those mentioned are not starting 13.
Even with said players back it would not change our slow ptb, slow sliding defence, inability to break the opposition line and the fact our defensive line is static, giving an easy 10 metres.

All scenerios are ifs buts or maybes I appreciate that but I'm looking rather at our style of play and not making excuses for players missing.
Saints, Wigan players slot in systems don't change.
Us, players missing, system fails.

Our style of play is OK, we score some of the most exciting tries in the league, I'd be surprised if any team scores more tries from in their own half, than us.

I'm not saying we need our best 17 out there all the time, but it's the continuty of the team that gets picked from game to game. At the moment, we've got a different 1-17 every game. It's a tough ask to build momentum and confidence when that's happening.

I'm not an advocate of sacking Radford. I agree that for 2 seasons our performances have not been acceptable, with some massive defeats and a record equalling run of defeats. It doesn't read well.

However, Pearson has listened to Radfords plan, offloaded heavily and replaced with what looks like some great new recruits.
So having been given the baton, Radford has to be given the chance to run with it. The first game showed that this team can play, and yet despite a narrow win against a good Rovers, the few injuries that we've suffered seem to really rock us, which questions our strength in depth I suppose, particularly when key men are out.
The performance against Catalans is the worrying one for me, in that we had the game won with 20mins to go. So Radfords game plan can work and we were good for 60 mins and looked like we'd go on to score more points. The massive issue for me is more about the mental strength of the squad as a whole. Its an absolutely critical factor. Thinking a game is won before it actually is has become a habit at Hull FC. Whereas champion teams in that position squeeze the foot on the throat even harder.

But because teams know we are weak mentally, teams feel they are never beaten with Hull FC. They always feel they can come back at us. We give them that belief because ours is so weak, time after time. Its real and present. Its becoming our trademark.

So, because it is clearly a collective problem the responsibility ultimately is Radfords to eradicate this softness that is part of our team make-up. If he can instil a mental strength, where the team think and behave as one, often lead by a captains inspiration and his ability to demand bodies are on the line, then we can really do something. Because I do believe we have the talent to still have a great season.

But there has to be a huge mindset change, there has to be a change of captain, there has to be a feeling of oneness on the pitch and a willingness to defend every gain line with total controlled ferocity.

If we can do that, because Radfords is able to instil that missing, never-say-die killer instinct into his team then we can quickly recreate our early optimism. But if he can't I would give him 10 matches, and if he cant rectify our quite pathetic mental strength that incredibly just cannot last for 80 mins. he'll be gone.

The Connor injury, scuppered Radders game plan against Cats. He was planning on only playing Kelly for an hour or so, because it was his first game and bring Carlos on when Kelly's legs tired. What with Ma'u only just returning from injury, and Fonua and Carlos still not 100%, our right edge did tire late in the game, and Tomkins took advantage of that. But those players will be better off for the game under their belts.

Well said. I think this is absolutely spot on.

How do you know what Lee's tactics were? (genuine question)

He is Lee

Because I listened to what he said in his after match interview.

This is when I know that I'm winning the debate.

I can see you coming around to get back on the Radders train, it's just your pride and having to admit you are wrong, that's standing in your way right now.