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| Quote ="RLfan7"
The answer to all them is no, so although Watmough is much bigger, stronger and better defensively it doesn't make him a better player!
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You think Sinield is a better player than Anthony Watmough ?
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"You think Sinield is a better player than Anthony Watmough ?'"
where have i said that??
I think both players have there strengths and weaknesses.
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| Quote ="pyeman"I've been a big fan of gleeson over the years but he didnt perform in the world cup (admittadley he was nowhere near the worst offender) and has had his worst season that i can remember. I'd say smith was right not to pick him, it might just give the kick up the a*se he needs to bring his game back up to its former level and give us some more options for centre next year.'"
He scored a couple of good tries in the WC, one from stand off. I thought he played well myself
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| Quote ="RLfan7"so although Watmough is much bigger, stronger and better defensively it doesn't make him a better player!
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Well imo it does.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"You think Sinield is a better player than Anthony Watmough ?'"
better RL player yes.....better 2nd rower battering ram...no
and did'nt watmough lead the league in missed tackles or something?? or errors or something like that??
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Well imo it does.'"
no it doesn't i was simply stating that Watmough (if playing loose forward) is a totally different type to what sinfield is!
Just go back and read my comment properley before you start talking rubbish.
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| Quote ="Dico"He scored a couple of good tries in the WC, one from stand off. I thought he played well myself'"
No where near as good as he's capable of, for whatever reason gleeson has been been low on form for over a year now. he used to have the best step of any english centre, now he doesnt.
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| Quote ="pyeman"No where near as good as he's capable of, for whatever reason gleeson has been been low on form for over a year now. he used to have the best step of any english centre, now he doesnt.'"
gleeson has shown signs of class for wigan since he has signed, particularly against hull kr in the playoffs. his defence has really impressed me since he came to us, i never had him down as a big defender but the defensive work he has done for us has been awesome. id still of had him in the england squad as the opposite centre to shenton, hes performed on the international stage in the past and im sure he could perform again.
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| Gleeson's decline can be traced back to his last season at Warrington when he started playing closer to the middle of the park rather than out in the centres, almost as a stand-off/loose forward hybrid.
Took away his big advantages, which are one-on-one footwork and sleight of hand.
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| Quote ="RLfan7"Disagree, Its down to the coach.'"
Nonsense. If you want to come out of retirement you talk to the Coach.
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| Quote ="kirkhall"The threequarters are the poorest I've seen in over fifty years to represent our country
I'm glad Tomkins has been given a run on his home ground i'm sure Smith will have told him to play his natural game.
McGuire and Sinfields last chance for me at international level, both good Super League players but dont perform at a higher level their field kicking, in the past, has been absymal! they have got to run Slater about with short then long kicks otherwise it'll be ................... ops!
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It more the case that they are the most inexperianced; time will tell whether they are the poorest.
I'd personally gone with experiance in the centres but we can't slag guys off wothout seeing them attmept to play at this level.
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| Quote ="kirkhall"The threequarters are the poorest I've seen in over fifty years to represent our country icon_cry.gif I'm glad Tomkins has been given a run on his home ground i'm sure Smith will have told him to play his natural game.
McGuire and Sinfields last chance for me at international level, both good Super League players but dont perform at a higher level their field kicking, in the past, has been absymal! they have got to run Slater about with short then long kicks otherwise it'll be ................... ops!
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You rate sykes over smith and shenton?
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| Quote kirkhall wrote: The threequarters are the poorest I've seen in over fifty years to represent our country I'm glad Tomkins has been given a run on his home ground i'm sure Smith will have told him to play his natural game.
McGuire and Sinfields last chance for me at international level, both good Super League players but dont perform at a higher level their field kicking, in the past, has been absymal! they have got to run Slater about with short then long kicks otherwise it'll be ................... ops! '"
Quote ="pyeman"You rate sykes over smith and shenton?
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Where is Sykes mentioned here?
Oooops OMG!!!
I remember now for some reason beyond me, Smithy included him in the squad!!
Is Tony Smith being paid by the convicts?
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I don't think Sinfield will be big enough to play loose against Aus, but the only other option is Burgess and we will need his size at prop.
But if you compare Sinfield to Watmough who played 13 last week, well, there is no comparison really is there.'"
I am a big fan of KS; he destroyed us in the GF.
However, he is not good enough to play loose against the cons. Tony Smith is probably hoping he will plat his Leeds hybrid game as an extra stand off cum loose. If this goes wrong he will end up as a spare part and it will go very badly wrong.
My other fear is that TS will aks him to do some of the hooking which has been tried before under Nobby against the cons in 2002 in the infamous record defeat disaster "one off" mid season test in Ozland.
For what its worth I think Watmough is nothing to fear as Pritchard showed against him last week.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Where is Sykes mentioned here?
Oooops OMG!!!
I remember now for some reason beyond me, Smithy included him in the squad!!
Is Tony Smith being paid by the convicts?'"
Apparentley we have the worst centres we've ever had, which considering sykes played last year is a pretty bold statement!
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| Quote ="saint at wire"
For what its worth I think Watmough is nothing to fear as Pritchard showed against him last week.'"
The biggest thing to fearabout Watmough is his line running.
Very good
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| Quote ="Dico"The biggest thing to fearabout Watmough is his line running.
Very good'"
Add turn of pace and direction too....can be mean in the tackle. Anyone who thinks Kevin Sinfield is anywhere near Watmough needs to watch SOO game 3.....Sinfield is a different player, but if he has ever had that much impact in one game I've missed it...and at SOO level??!! Quite a feat given the quality if the opposition...
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| super tom briscoe will be our hero
the criminals wont know whats hit em, just give him the ball and a blade of grass, he'll turn it in to points
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| Quote ="Paul_J"Add turn of pace and direction too....can be mean in the tackle. Anyone who thinks Kevin Sinfield is anywhere near Watmough needs to watch SOO game 3.....Sinfield is a different player, but if he has ever had that much impact in one game I've missed it...and at SOO level??!! Quite a feat given the quality if the opposition...'"
You must be joking! Sinfield is a proven big match player at club level and i think he will eventually shut the doubters up over this series.
It seems some people want our team to fail so they can slag players from other clubs off! Why can't we all just get behind the lads and support them irrespective of which club they play for.
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| And if Sinfield doesn't perform again this series, will you change your opinion of his position in the Test squad?
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| Quote ="CGD"And if Sinfield doesn't perform again this series, will you change your opinion of his position in the Test squad?'"
Yes of course, I'm honest and no matter who doesn't look upto it i will admit, i just think people are shooting players down before they've even had a chance.
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| It wont just be Sinfield who'll look poor at the end of this game, it'll show,once again, the lack of quality players available to England! I have a feeling Sam Tomkins will enhance his reputation if nothing else
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| Good evening my Soap-Dodging friends,
Usually I make my appearances after we give you guys a resounding hiding, but, for once, I like the team England have announced. No more same old players that are totally out of their depths and have lost to the Kangaroos a million times already.
Good luck, hope you guys do well.
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| Cmon England get into them, i just want to see a good performance and see all the English lads up for it and ready to give it to the Aussies today.
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| McGuire & Sinfield anyone? That should definately be it now for McGuire I thought it was me that had a down on him however, walking away from the ground, I asked the best stand off I've seen what he thought of McGuire, he said; he cost us the game! I'm happy now I thought it was just me who didn't rate!
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