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| that mans 2 cans short of a 6 pack......him and the Dr together would be massive for the game
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| That reads like a text-to-speech translation of someone having a meltdown. Wagging his finger at a passing dog whilst drinking Buckfast.
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| jeez. tough guy insulting club owners from a false ID.
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| so come on Orangeman show some appreciation for these guys investmemt and enthusiasm for the game?.
What do you bring to the game??
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| Quote ="Cokey"Is he right?'"
it worked didn't it? Second win in the bag.
His comments about the alternative to straight promotion and relegation being agreed by other superleague clubs before they turned their backs as Leigh fell away sounds about right too IMO.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"jeez. tough guy insulting club owners from a false ID.'"
Can I ask. Is Donnyman a family name or did your parents avidly collect frank Zappa albums?
Quote ="Donnyman"so come on Orangeman show some appreciation for these guys investmemt and enthusiasm for the game?.
What do you bring to the game??'"
Investment based on enthusiasm generally ends in disaster......and not for the enthusiastic investor .....just the poor souls whose hopes they rain on.
Leigh were always going down this year and London are a basket case. Both clubs rely on a benevolent owner and both of these are in possession of money and passion but not a lot of joined up thinking....I doubt that the good Dr even now fully understands that what he did whilst at Salford did more damage than good...Salford now rely on th benevolence of a union club who will soon be their landlord.....progress it ain't.
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| What an utter pr ick this person is.
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| Quote ="DallasMead2"What an utter pr ick this person is.'"
you must be very clever to work that out
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"it worked didn't it? Second win in the bag.
His comments about the alternative to straight promotion and relegation being agreed by other superleague clubs before they turned their backs as Leigh fell away sounds about right too IMO.'"
So what's he going to do next week? Threaten to not pay them?
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| Quote ="DallasMead2"What an utter pr ick this person is.'"
For whatever reason DB was refusing to pay for Australian player Brendan Elliot's flight back home. On the Friday before the Hull KR game at Newcastle, the players told Beaumont that unless he agreed to do pay for Elliot's flight back home, they would travel up to St. James Park, then just stay in the changing room at kick -off.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"For whatever reason DB was refusing to pay for Australian player Brendan Elliot's flight back home. On the Friday before the Hull KR game at Newcastle, the players told Beaumont that unless he agreed to do pay for Elliot's flight back home, they would travel up to St. James Park, then just stay in the changing room at kick -off.'"
so in the end he didn't pay the flight then........
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| Quote ="jools"so in the end he didn't pay the flight then........'"
Ha Ha
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"For whatever reason DB was refusing to pay for Australian player Brendan Elliot's flight back home. On the Friday before the Hull KR game at Newcastle, the players told Beaumont that unless he agreed to do pay for Elliot's flight back home, they would travel up to St. James Park, then just stay in the changing room at kick -off.'"
Right. So as I said then……
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| Quote ="Donnyman"jeez. tough guy insulting club owners from a false ID.'"
Quite. At least Derek decided to get smashed before insulting Bradford for going bust eh!
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| Quote ="orangeman"Can I ask. Is Donnyman a family name or did your parents avidly collect frank Zappa albums?
Investment based on enthusiasm generally ends in disaster......and not for the enthusiastic investor .....just the poor souls whose hopes they rain on.
Leigh were always going down this year and London are a basket case. Both clubs rely on a benevolent owner and both of these are in possession of money and passion but not a lot of joined up thinking....I doubt that the good Dr even now fully understands that what he did whilst at Salford did more damage than good...Salford now rely on th benevolence of a union club who will soon be their landlord.....progress it ain't.'"
Wigan, traditionally one of the top 3 RL Clubs in England are heavily reliant on a benevolent owner & are massively in debt, yet no mention !!!!
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Wigan, traditionally one of the top 3 RL Clubs in England are heavily reliant on a benevolent owner & are massively in debt, yet no mention !!!!'"
Wigan, are heavily reliant on a benevolent owner & are massively in debt and have a trophy cabinet that glitters and an average fan base 2 times that of Leigh and 12 times that of london......none of the club own their own grounds although Wigan do have tangible assets.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Wigan, traditionally one of the top 3 RL Clubs in England are heavily reliant on a benevolent owner & are massively in debt, yet no mention !!!!'"
No point feeding "them" they've done this one.....
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| Quote ="orangeman"Wigan, are heavily reliant on a benevolent owner & are massively in debt and have a trophy cabinet that glitters and an average fan base 2 times that of Leigh and 12 times that of london......none of the club own their own grounds although Wigan do have tangible assets.
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and???
Bradford had a trophy cabinet that glittered and a large fan base, and their own ground......... didnt stop the debt doing them in though when the debts were called in.......
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| Quote ="jools"and???
Bradford had a trophy cabinet that glittered and a large fan base, and their own ground........[u. didnt stop the debt doing them in though when the debts were called in...[/u....'"
Perhaps they did not have a benevolent owner
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| Quote ="happyjack"Perhaps they did not have a benevolent owner'"
Yes. We prefer our two Bob millionaires hand picked by the rfl.
Super League will be fine as long as they keep the rich owners involved. A shame that the game is still so fragile.
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| Quote ="happyjack"Perhaps they did not have a benevolent owner'"
Curry man to the rescue......with Belinda Carlisle and Rick astley singing backing vocals
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| Quote ="happyjack"Perhaps they did not have a benevolent owner'"
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| Quote ="orangeman"Curry man to the rescue......with Belinda Carlisle and Rick astley singing backing vocals
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Strange that you're the same poster that claimed we've been on the end of more favours than any other club, but gloss over the fact that the RFL have more than cancelled out any assistance by foisting a succession of small businessmen on us. Unlike some of them, Curry man as you charmingly call Omar Khan was an honourable and well meaning man who got in over his head.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Strange that you're the same poster that claimed we've been on the end of more favours than any other club, but gloss over the fact that the RFL have more than cancelled out any assistance by foisting a succession of small businessmen on us. Unlike some of them, Curry man as you charmingly call Omar Khan was an honourable and well meaning man who got in over his head.'"
I think you'll find that the RFL didn't "foister" (sic) anyone onto Bradford......Bradford went to the wall through mismanagement over a number of years and at that stage couldn't attract anything other than carpetbaggers and chancers to the table. I think you'll also find that rather than the ground be possibly lost to RL, the RFL purchased it, because Bradford couldn't afford to do anything, let alone service the debt they'd run up against it.
Furthermore, I succinctly remember not one, but close to a half dozen 'bucket' campaigns to bail the club out.
I have no doubt Mr Khan had his heart in the right place, but the reality was he was WAY over his head and the £1,800,000 SKY money was his, as well as the ex publican and the other "saviours" go to thing when it came to saving the club.
I don't "gloss over" anything when it comes to this sport. Salford are on deaths door, London (my club) are gone for good in their current guise, the RFL/SL Chairmen are not fit for purpose and the state of the game in the northern hemisphere is shambolic. Bradford were the architects of their own demise and received more favours than most during that time before you were relegated. What you've achieved since is to be applauded, but without the bucket collections and the RFL stepping in when they did, you've been toast!
Listen. I get it. Someoe is saying something "nasty" about your club. We've had conspiracy theorists harping on about that there london and bags of cash for decades....difference is, other than a £100,000 bribe paid to the owner of Barnet FC by the other SL clubs to ensure the 2014 seaon started, London has never had anyone shake a bucket for u...or buy our ground for us either. Not to mention let games go ahead on a minature pitch
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| Quote ="orangeman"I think you'll find that the RFL didn't "foister" (sic) anyone onto Bradford......Bradford went to the wall through mismanagement over a number of years and at that stage couldn't attract anything other than carpetbaggers and chancers to the table. I think you'll also find that rather than the ground be possibly lost to RL, the RFL purchased it, because Bradford couldn't afford to do anything, let alone service the debt they'd run up against it.'"
You've actually written "Sic" next to a word YOU have spelled wrong. That's a bit unusual. Anyway you are mistaken because administrators received bids to take over the club from people such as Koukash, and the wealthy owners of Wasps RUFC. Those offers were turned down each time in favour of people with no money and often dubious business nous. So it is simply false to claim the only people who wanted to buy Bradford were "carpetbaggers and chancers". They are the only people ALLOWED to buy it which creates an inevitable cycle of failure.
Quote ="orangeman"Furthermore, I succinctly remember not one, but close to a half dozen 'bucket' campaigns to bail the club out.'"
Did you mean distinctly? Anyway you've false memory syndrome there. We had one large game-wide collection and we are all grateful for that. It hasn't happened recurrently.
Quote ="orangeman"Listen. I get it. Someoe is saying something "nasty" about your club. '"
I am the first to admit what a basket case my club is and I make sure I don't deride any other club that suffers. But I will keep countering the absolute nonsense the game has swallowed about just how wonderfully Bradford has been treated. The net impact of RFL meddling is negative.
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