Have a beer and drape towel over the screen. That works too. After a fashion.

For Rangi Chase's next trick. He punches an elderly deaf person in the face.

Nah, even in his old age Stevo'd ave him.

Sick of hearing about Widnes' injury problems. Wakefield are down to 18 fit players, in fact we are so desperate we've called Lee Gilmour out of retirement and trying to get him up to fitness.

did Widnes have injuries ? can't recall anyone mentioning it !

We've always got loads injured after the first few roads of the season, it happens every year. next home game their on about filming the first few scenes of casualty.

Will "The good Doctor" be happy
Has Phil Clarke backed Salford
I wonder if they're pleased for Iestyn Harris
How big are Pattersons feet
Do you think Widnes are missing Kevin Brown

Mrs Patterson is a lucky lady.

You would have thought Eddie would have mentioned Salford are 4th......

If only we could tempt Andrew Voss over.

The Sky commentary always focus on negatives and 'controversial' incidents. Mix in a healthy dose of repetition, then add a full drop of ex-referee and we're left with a fine Northern mess.

I actually cancelled my Sky Sports subscription because, apart from it paying Premiership footballers inflated wages, I can't take Hemmings atrocious excuse for commentary seriously anymore.

If all you subscribe to Sky for is the RL, there are plenty of places you can get live streams online. Turn the speakers off on your laptop, job's a good 'un.

Great hit on Paddy Flynn, definite try saver.

Football on Sky has evolved since the Premier League started, changing commentators and studio guests, bringing in ex-players that have played in the modern game or involved in the modern game (Neville, Carragher, Henry etc).

RL are still stuck on the Eddie & Stevo bandwagon that they had when Sky picked up the sport when it was the Stones Bitter Championship! Phil Clarke, Barry Mac and Terry O are from a different time in the game too, only Carney is of recent SL history.

They need to introduce some new blood, move Carney into the comm box and Stevo out, and bring someone in to replace the role Carney is currently doing - with a view to Carney becoming the new Eddie and then the new Carney into the comm box too.

I agree, we need an Andy Gray/Richard Keys style stitch up to get rid. Its either that or soon the commentary will sound like something out of Last of The Summer Wine.

Rugby League on SKY has been produced by the same bloke for the last couple of decades. His name is Neville Smith.

I think some of the ideas he & his team have come up with over the years are quite innovative, but if he thinks the whole commentary/punditry on the programme is good, he's seriously deluded.

He's ultimately the problem.

Agreed!

I thought we'd got Eddie because of Samuel L Jacksongate but the blokes a cockroach

I haven't watched it back on Sky yet, but at the game it looked as though MCB grounded the ball. What was the reason it wasn't given?

Video ref decided there was clear evidence that MCB touched the ball, lost contact and touched it again once on the floor so a knock on. I know I'm biased but didn't look conclusive enough to over rule the on field decision. Cummings thought it wasn't a try, Stevo thought if was. Unusually I was with Stevo

I don't understand how Eddie can commentate for so many years and still not fully understand the game, it's absolutely crazy. And now with the addition of Cummings it is so much more obvious when we have Eddie constantly asking for rule clarifications or being corrected. It really is not good enough for a professional set up.

The post match analysis last night by Barry and Terry was awful. Terry in particular was cringeworthy!

Just watched the hull kr game. To err once is human, to err twice in 5 minutes that badly is either gross incompetence or corruption.

Or incompetent corruption. Too blatant by half

Yep. It's the problem with the whole thing at Sky. The programmes are produced like the presenters are fans of the game, not professional presenters. The only ones who don't are Carney and Wells. They're the saving grace. But it's not enough.

Stevo - is frustrating but gets a bit of a pass because he's a legend. But he needs to be used less and certainly not as a main commentator. He just doesn't add anything except confusion.

Barrie & Terry - unfortunately, as much as I liked them as players and having spoken to both a few times both seem nice enough guys but they just portray a terrible image on the TV. Neither can speak well enough or fluently enough on the TV and Terry in particular never offers anything other than cliches.

Clarke - sometimes decent, at least tries to talk about some aspects of the game that the others neglect. But too often takes the side of 1 team or another and then proceeds to sound like a fan.

Carney and Wells - top stuff. More please.

Cummings - no need. Sometimes gets stuff wrong. But even if he got everything right it's just unnecessary to constantly ask him. It takes away from the game.

Eddie - I'm sure he's a nice guy and there may be a place for him doing parts of other programmes like Boots n All, full time etc that he can present. But for matchdays he's done in my opinion. He doesn't offer any insight, gets obsessed with minor incidents and sounds too much like a fan than a professional lead commentator or presenter. As you say the fact his paid employment is explaining the sport of rugby league to people and he knows sod all about the game, it's rules and how it's played isnt good enough.

My solution:
- Get rid of Eddie
- Carney main presenter & does analysis with Wells
- Stevo, Clarke or a guest in the studio for pre-match, halftime & post-match
- New main commentator, anyone who will actually commentate on the game.
- Carney, Wells, Clarke, guest as second commentator to do a Gary Neville type role.

Job done.

As good as Carney and Wells are I wonder if we would lose that if they moved into the box. What they do at the moment they do very well. I actually think Rod Studd is a pretty competent commentator, not sure what other people think of him.

As for Eddie, apparently he is an aloof prima donna, while Stevo is down to earth and friendly. So I've been told anyway. I'd be quite happy to get rid of one, even both. Stevo does have his moments, but he is entertaining for all the wrong reasons, like Ray French in his decline.

Isn't Stevo retiring at the end of this season anyway?

My choice to replace Eddie would be either Dave Woods or Vossy.