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| The BBC and the NHS..
You either hate them or love them.
Both do a good enough job for this country.
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| You could also argue that moving the Challenge Cup and taking a lot of Rugby League away from the BBC has actually prompted them to go big on the six nations. Because this time of year is when they have would normally been showing crucial Challenge Cup ties.
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| The best publicity for rugby league would be continued exposure of the dire 6 Nations tournament on BBC.
15-15 with no tries.
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| Quote ="Bilko"At the end of the day you'll never get big terrestrial coverage back. Grandstand is no more and Saturday Afternoon Sport is centre more around watching the football results come in then anything else. But maybe if the BBC had 16-20 weekends of Rugby League to show, Grandstand may still be on the air!'"
I've heard it all now and can't wait for chris Irvine's next blog "rugby league killed grandstand"
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| Quote ="Gijou"
Agree with this, why would people want to watch a boring match with no tries and just kicks.
I still think the challenge cup should be moved from the BBC and yes probably keep it on terrestrial tv and move it to ITV or Channel 4.
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| Quote ="Bilko"The BBC are showing two Four Nations matches Live from Australia in the Autumn, one of them not even involving England. I can't ever remember them doing that, not Live anyway. Certainly not in my lifetime.'"
France Versus Australia was live on the BBC last Autumn.
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| Quote ="Bilko"
Why was the 1995 World Cup held here a huge success? Because it was all Live on the BBC and they all their domestic coverage to give constant plugs to it.
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I`m sorry decent enough post till I got to bit - the reason that WC was a success had little to do with the BBC who whilst showing several matches live ( mid week ones restricted to BBC Northern channels) did their best to try and hide it away and more or less showed their hand as a RL- hating establishment service they really are ...
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| Quote ="Bilko"You could also argue that moving the Challenge Cup and taking a lot of Rugby League away from the BBC has actually prompted them to go big on the six nations. Because this time of year is when they have would normally been showing crucial Challenge Cup ties.'"
wasnt it at the BBC request that the Challenge Cup be moved from May to August?
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| Quote ="J O N N Y"France Versus Australia was live on the BBC last Autumn.'"
that was in france not in australia though.
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| Quote ="Bilko"Why are the BBC going big on Rugby Union?'"
40 million reasons a year would do that to you. 40 million reasons for 15 games over 5 weekends.
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| Quote ="Quadrivium"I`m sorry decent enough post till I got to bit - the reason that WC was a success had little to do with the BBC who whilst showing several matches live ( mid week ones restricted to BBC Northern channels) did their best to try and hide it away and more or less showed their hand as a RL- hating establishment service they really are ...'"
And who can forget Steve 'where are you now?' Ryder's opening to the Centenary World Cup, '[iWelcome to a wet, windy and EMPTY Windsor Park[/i'. Gillipollas.
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| Quote ="J O N N Y"France Versus Australia was live on the BBC last Autumn.'"
As stated I was refering to show games Live from Australia!
Quote ="Quadrivium"I`m sorry decent enough post till I got to bit - the reason that WC was a success had little to do with the BBC who whilst showing several matches live ( mid week ones restricted to BBC Northern channels) did their best to try and hide it away and more or less showed their hand as a RL- hating establishment service they really are ...'"
Well thats not the way I saw it. I've never thought the BBC is rugby league hating at all. It's definetly well down the pecking order these days though.
And I know it wasn't full live coverage that year but the point I was making was the quantity of Rugby League the BBC showed in those days in advance of the tournament provided an advert for it at least. Something that didn't happen in 2000.
Quote ="saints35 bulls0"wasnt it at the BBC request that the Challenge Cup be moved from May to August?'"
I can't remember to be honest. It hasn't worked in my view.
I'm not saying the BBC coverage is perfect and I know they wouldn't put league games on in prime time. But if we had given them the four nations exclusively they would have shown all the games.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"And who can forget Steve 'where are you now?' Ryder's opening to the Centenary World Cup, '[iWelcome to a wet, windy and EMPTY Windsor Park[/i'. Gillipollas.'"
That was the 2000 World Cup not 1995. Can't excuse Steve Rider's comment but why should the BBC have got enthused about that (it was Ireland v Samoa they were showing) when all the big games were all on Sky? I think they had England v Australia Live later that night on Sky, from bloody twickenham!!
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| Quote ="Warriors73"I find this a disgrace, Rugby League would never get this sort of coverage.'"
That's because RL never:
1) has three high-profile internationals, all played in front of sold out stadiums, on the same weekend.
2) sells those rights exclusively to the BBC.
It's OK claiming that the BBC is against us but if we aren't providing content of the quality that the BBC wants, it's not the BBC's fault - they aren't there to be the RFL's PR agency.
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| Quote ="Bilko"That was the 2000 World Cup not 1995. Can't excuse Steve Rider's comment but why should the BBC have got enthused about that (it was Ireland v Samoa they were showing) when all the big games were all on Sky? I think they had England v Australia Live later that night on Sky, from bloody twickenham!!'"
Remember it being the main event on Grandstand and there had even been a couple of adverts midweek. Whether it was a big game or not, it was unprofessional of him. Steve Ryder later went on to work on ITV's rugby union coverage, make of that what you will.
Do you think many presenters would open say a football FA cup 3rd round tie like that?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"
Do you think many presenters would open say a football FA cup 3rd round tie like that?'"
If they were doing a Wigan Athletic home match, probably!
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| Quote ="Bilko"If they were doing a Wigan Athletic home match, probably!
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Latics in the 4th round would be more difficult.
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| Quote ="Gijou"The best publicity for rugby league would be continued exposure of the dire 6 Nations tournament on BBC.
15-15 with no tries.
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I know this is hard for a lot of fans to believe, but thousands of people really enjoy rugby union. Rugby league has been waiting for people to get bored and "come to their senses" for a hundred years. Maybe it's time people accepted that union fans genuinely enjoy their game and might even honestly prefer it to rugby league. Each to their own.
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| Quote ="Bilko"
Why was the 1995 World Cup held here a huge success? Because it was all Live on the BBC and they all their domestic coverage to give constant plugs to it.
Why was the 2000 World Cup a huge failure? Because the majority of the tournament was Live on Sky and all that BBC exposure had gone. '"
I hope that the RFL dont make the same mistake in 2013, every game on the BBC please
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| Quote ="tyr"I know this is hard for a lot of fans to believe, but thousands of people really enjoy rugby union. Rugby league has been waiting for people to get bored and "come to their senses" for a hundred years. Maybe it's time people accepted that union fans genuinely enjoy their game and might even honestly prefer it to rugby league. Each to their own.'"
There is some truth to what you say, but it's not as if rugby union has always looked as it does now. Some may be more inclined to "come to their senses" now as opposed to a decade ago. Who knows. I think we can safely say that defection will not happen on a large scale, though.
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| It would, if people approached League with an open mind.
Having once been part of a big union squad, they don't.
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| Quote ="Dico"It would, if people approached League with an open mind.
Having once been part of a big union squad, they don't.'"
And vice versa.
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| Quote ="Dico"
Having once been part of a big union <snippy>'"
Which one are you then?
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Although an aussie wouldn't have known about the postal strikes now would he?
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Although an aussie wouldn't have known about the postal strikes now would he?
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It was only last year!
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