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Quote ="wrencat1873"Stop talking crap, Bradford only reneged on their Odsal lease last year.
I take it that your happy for others to continue paying off their "debts" (the lease that they had agreed and then walked away from)d040.gif
Interestingly, they (Bradford) were only given dispensation to move to Dewsbury for this season.
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... ry---2020/
Is their home all sorted for next season. Maybe their "new" home is conditional on them getting the "golden ticket"..'"
Just checking wasn’t that the previous owner...?
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Quote ="wrencat1873"Stop talking crap, Bradford only reneged on their Odsal lease last year.
I take it that your happy for others to continue paying off their "debts" (the lease that they had agreed and then walked away from)d040.gif
Interestingly, they (Bradford) were only given dispensation to move to Dewsbury for this season.
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... ry---2020/
Is their home all sorted for next season. Maybe their "new" home is conditional on them getting the "golden ticket"..'"
Just checking wasn’t that the previous owner...?
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| This whole facade is set up for Bradford to get back in.
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Quote ="wrencat1873"Stop talking crap, Bradford only reneged on their Odsal lease last year.
I take it that your happy for others to continue paying off their "debts" (the lease that they had agreed and then walked away from)d040.gif
Interestingly, they (Bradford) were only given dispensation to move to Dewsbury for this season.
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... ry---2020/
Is their home all sorted for next season. Maybe their "new" home is conditional on them getting the "golden ticket"..'"
How do you renege on a lease that doesn't exist?
Anyway, I disagree completely with Bradford going up now. We haven't earned it and I don't want to see the club used as cannon fodder for greedy, short sighted super duper league club chairmen to avoid relegation. Clubs whose only plan for growth is short change a side from the lower division - just like their big plan for the new TV deal. The promoted club is lucky to get a half of the central funding the other clubs get as if Salford and Wakefield got their own way it would be a mere 800K! Robbing swines!
Unless Nigel has found a couple of million down the back of the settee it would likely only end one way.
That said seeing how much it would wind people up it might be quite funny.
Leigh would be my favourite to go up. Great club with a good following, ace ground and financial clout. They are building a squad good enough to stay up too. Beaumont wouldn't take any BS off the likes of Carter and Pearson and it would be ace seeing the plan backfire and one of the old boys club get relegated.
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Quote ="wrencat1873"Stop talking crap, Bradford only reneged on their Odsal lease last year.
I take it that your happy for others to continue paying off their "debts" (the lease that they had agreed and then walked away from)d040.gif
Interestingly, they (Bradford) were only given dispensation to move to Dewsbury for this season.
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... ry---2020/
Is their home all sorted for next season. Maybe their "new" home is conditional on them getting the "golden ticket"..'"
How do you renege on a lease that doesn't exist?
Anyway, I disagree completely with Bradford going up now. We haven't earned it and I don't want to see the club used as cannon fodder for greedy, short sighted super duper league club chairmen to avoid relegation. Clubs whose only plan for growth is short change a side from the lower division - just like their big plan for the new TV deal. The promoted club is lucky to get a half of the central funding the other clubs get as if Salford and Wakefield got their own way it would be a mere 800K! Robbing swines!
Unless Nigel has found a couple of million down the back of the settee it would likely only end one way.
That said seeing how much it would wind people up it might be quite funny.
Leigh would be my favourite to go up. Great club with a good following, ace ground and financial clout. They are building a squad good enough to stay up too. Beaumont wouldn't take any BS off the likes of Carter and Pearson and it would be ace seeing the plan backfire and one of the old boys club get relegated.
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| Quote ="puroresu_boy"This whole facade is set up for Bradford to get back in.'"
And I hope they do! Great history, huge past silverware success,......Many problems over the years But still a cracking fan base.
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Written by devout Bradford & Toronto fan Matthew "I Love Bradford & Toronto" Shaw.
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Written by devout Bradford & Toronto fan Matthew "I Love Bradford & Toronto" Shaw.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"How do you renege on a lease that doesn't exist?
Anyway, I disagree completely with Bradford going up now. We haven't earned it and I don't want to see the club used as cannon fodder for greedy, short sighted super duper league club chairmen to avoid relegation. Clubs whose only plan for growth is short change a side from the lower division - just like their big plan for the new TV deal. The promoted club is lucky to get a half of the central funding the other clubs get as if Salford and Wakefield got their own way it would be a mere 800K! Robbing swines!
Unless Nigel has found a couple of million down the back of the settee it would likely only end one way.
That said seeing how much it would wind people up it might be quite funny.
Leigh would be my favourite to go up. Great club with a good following, ace ground and financial clout. They are building a squad good enough to stay up too. Beaumont wouldn't take any BS off the likes of Carter and Pearson and it would be ace seeing the plan backfire and one of the old boys club get relegated.'"
Why would you want to join an organisation that’s full of greedy short sighted super duper league club chairmen, whose only plan for growth is to short change a side from the lower division.
That’s what’s called hypocrisy. Anyway cast your mind back when bulls were one of such
super duper SL clubs, that denied Trinity when promoted, the funding for 2 years. The second division clubs helped to fund Trinity in those 2 years. Some people have such short memories, and others have long memories.
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I am hearing that the 5,000 minimum ground capacity has been set specifically so that Bradford get in !
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"How do you renege on a lease that doesn't exist?
Anyway, I disagree completely with Bradford going up now. We haven't earned it and I don't want to see the club used as cannon fodder for greedy, short sighted super duper league club chairmen to avoid relegation. Clubs whose only plan for growth is short change a side from the lower division - just like their big plan for the new TV deal. The promoted club is lucky to get a half of the central funding the other clubs get as if Salford and Wakefield got their own way it would be a mere 800K! Robbing swines!
Unless Nigel has found a couple of million down the back of the settee it would likely only end one way.
That said seeing how much it would wind people up it might be quite funny.
Leigh would be my favourite to go up. Great club with a good following, ace ground and financial clout. They are building a squad good enough to stay up too. Beaumont wouldn't take any BS off the likes of Carter and Pearson and it would be ace seeing the plan backfire and one of the old boys club get relegated.'"
Good post Macc BBB.
I would say that Bradford fans have always been a cracking bunch to be around *at least in my experience* welcoming to Leigh fans at Odsal & causing no trouble in Leigh, good rivalry & banter without extremes. I was warmly welcomed onto your page as an interested observer/RL fan on your pages during your recent troubles as were others (obviously those not visiting to gloat).
Outside of Super League there is no bigger sleeping giant & no bigger fan base *including Toronto* most will concede that as fact, question being, is that reason enough to promote Bulls ? Certainly I am no fan of the actual stadium which might be big but has the awful track that ensures fans are well away from the action & is so decrepit that it is literally a noose around the neck of Bradford & the RFL. It also wouldn't look out of place in Chernobyl.
Hownmuch would it really cost to make Odsal a stadium really fit for Super League ?
I am with others, I believe Bradford will make their own way back to Super League long term & be all the better for it. I don't see any positives in Bulls being gifted Super League.
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| If you look and listen it’s not hard to see who the 12th team is, and ile put my money where my mouth is if anyone thinks different, let’s look at it closely, there is no promotion or relegation next season, so why is mr Beaumont spending loads and loads of money
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| Quote ="Molsk111"If you look and listen it’s not hard to see who the 12th team is, and ile put my money where my mouth is if anyone thinks different, let’s look at it closely, there is no promotion or relegation next season, so why is mr Beaumont spending loads and loads of money'"
Are you sure there is no P&R at the end of the 2021 season?
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| Quote ="Molsk111"Yes I’m sure'"
In all due respect, do you info on this?
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| Quote ="Molsk111"Yes I’m sure'"
Then why has that not been publicly stated? Mmmm - maybe that's a silly question.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Why would you want to join an organisation that’s full of greedy short sighted super duper league club chairmen, whose only plan for growth is to short change a side from the lower division.
That’s what’s called hypocrisy.'"
You do realise I'm not Bradford Bulls or representative of the club don't you? I have no control over what the club's board think or do. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole but I'm nothing to do with running the club just a fan.
Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Anyway cast your mind back when bulls were one of such
super duper SL clubs, that denied Trinity when promoted, the funding for 2 years. The second division clubs helped to fund Trinity in those 2 years. Some people have such short memories, and others have long memories.'"
Equally, cast your mind back to 2017 when Carter gave notice to the then owners of Belle Vue that the club were leaving because they wanted too much rent for a decrepit ground. Yet here we have Wakefield fans crying over another club doing just that 2 years later.
Still if just the mention that we're in the running is causing field fans to lose their it will probably be worth it to see the outrage if it happens. Despite the fact it gets trinity another year of underwhelming mediocrity in super duper league.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"You do realise I'm not Bradford Bulls or representative of the club don't you? I have no control over what the club's board think or do. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole but I'm nothing to do with running the club just a fan.
Equally, cast your mind back to 2017 when Carter gave notice to the then owners of Belle Vue that the club were leaving because they wanted too much rent for a decrepit ground. Yet here we have Wakefield fans crying over another club doing just that 2 years later.'" cast your mind back to when we entered super league and got nothing, zero money but you conveniently forget that, see your still sucking on that lemon
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| Quote ="snowie"cast your mind back to when we entered super league and got nothing, zero money but you conveniently forget that, see your still sucking on that lemon'"
See what I mean
Yeah 22 years ago, we used to send little kids to work in mines but it doesn't mean we start doing it again.
There's been a lot of water under the bridge, for example, Wakefield have gone bust twice and faced an NCA investigation into how they got a tax payer funded loan to buy Belle Vue for twice it's value from a bloke with links to drug dealers - who's been ordered to pay back £10M through an unexplained wealth order since then.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"See what I mean
Yeah 22 years ago, we used to send little kids to work in mines but it doesn't mean we start doing it again.
There's been a lot of water under the bridge, for example, Wakefield have gone bust twice and faced an NCA investigation into how they got a tax payer funded loan to buy Belle Vue for twice it's value from a bloke with links to drug dealers - who's been ordered to pay back £10M through an unexplained wealth order since then.'"
Are you suggesting that Michael Carter has got connection dealings with drug dealers ?
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Good post Macc BBB.
I would say that Bradford fans have always been a cracking bunch to be around *at least in my experience* welcoming to Leigh fans at Odsal & causing no trouble in Leigh, good rivalry & banter without extremes. I was warmly welcomed onto your page as an interested observer/RL fan on your pages during your recent troubles as were others (obviously those not visiting to gloat).
Outside of Super League there is no bigger sleeping giant & no bigger fan base *including Toronto* most will concede that as fact, question being, is that reason enough to promote Bulls ?
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Toronto had the biggest non-paying fan base and the smallest away following................
For those who believe quite fairly that Bulls may just go up and straight back down do remember next year is the last year of the current TV deal and it's not inevitable if Bulls did come bottom they would go down......the league structure could be changed.
The last proposal for change was for SL to drop to 10 clubs. You never know SL could cancel the current set up and license in the 10 clubs they want so watch out Bernard Gausche.....
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| Quote ="snowie"Are you suggesting that Michael Carter has got connection dealings with drug dealers ?'"
is that the best you can come up with?
Manni Hussein was linked to drug dealers including Meggy Khan hence the OWO worth £10M. That's who Wakefield bought Belle Vue from, for twice it's value via a tax payer funded loan.
Don't worry we'll make sure we don't stand in your end of your unsegregated ground if fans allowed back in next season. We don't want a repeat of last time.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"You do realise I'm not Bradford Bulls or representative of the club don't you? I have no control over what the club's board think or do. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole[u but I'm nothing to do with running the club just a fan[/u
Still if just the mention that we're in the running is causing field fans to lose their poop it will probably be worth it to see the outrage if it happens.[u Despite the fact it gets trinity another year of underwhelming mediocrity in super duper league.[/u'"
Still a very bitter ex Wakey fan by the sound of it , that what jumped ship and joined the rest of the glory hunting bulls fans in the good old days
As for getting another year of underwhelming mediocrity in super duper league, us field fans will be in good company playing in our own ground against other underwhelming teams, something you can only aspire to thankfully
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| Ah yes Belle Vue. Where for years away fans stood behind the posts, until a roof was built and they were shoved out to the side.
Standard for a ground in Yorkshire of course.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza" Don't worry we'll make sure we don't stand in your end of your unsegregated ground if fans allowed back in next season. We don't want a repeat of last time.'"
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