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| Quote ="HXSparky"Although done with the best intentions (to close the gap between the Championship & SL), it's this, along with the ludicrous DR system that is heavily weighted in favour of the "parent" club, that has caused this issue. Fev have relied on DR, but especially now with Leeds in the M8's, that's not quite working as planned.
Both Leigh and Fev (albeit with very different scenarios) are having to prepare for 2019 will less funding available, and it's having an adverse affect on the closing stages of the Championship season.
Having scraped into the top 4, Fax are lucky that they won't have to make any cutbacks next season, although it's unlikely that we'll see many new recruits (given we're quite likely to end up probably bottom of the M8's). However, we of course wouldn't have been in a position to be only able to field a squad of 15 players if we'd failed to make the top 4. Did I ever mention that Fax have a reserve team?'"
Disappointing that today a Huddersfield and a St Helens player have been selected instead of 2 of the clubs own players in JWH and Jones.
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| You'd have thought there'd be some bitching about the performance of Hull or Catalans, even with a full 17, neither of them can hit a barn door from 2 inches.
Cats especially, the Codheads are injured to hell and back, the Cats have thrown away their last 3 SL games and don't look like winning another game this season, we know they can play so what do they bring to the game rolling over and conceding a 5h1t load of points game after game.
fine em and deduct points for next season for bringing the game in to disrepute.
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| I’m not sure what’s more embarrassing, claiming to be “the lifeblood of the sport” but only been able to name 14 players in your match day squad, or losing to the side that only has 14 players.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"I’m not sure what’s more embarrassing, claiming to be “the lifeblood of the sport” but only been able to name 14 players in your match day squad, or losing to the side that only has 14 players.'"
Meh, it's all irrelevant frankly, at this stage. Fortunately we have Toulouse, London, New York, Toronto and Coventry who, any minute now, will bring untold millions to the UK game. I can't wait!
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| Quote ="mapleyther"Meh, it's all irrelevant frankly, at this stage. Fortunately we have Toulouse, London, New York, Toronto and Coventry who, any minute now, will bring untold millions to the UK game. I can't wait!'"
Indeed. Can't wait for the attendance spike next year! And the increase in sponsorship!
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"I’m not sure what’s more embarrassing, claiming to be “the lifeblood of the sport” but only been able to name 14 players in your match day squad, or losing to the side that only has 14 players.'"
Fev knew they were up against it on a hot day with 1 sub , they came out committed in defence and positive and clinical in attack , the built a lead down the slope and kept us out well into the second half
Leigh were poor , terrible ball retention and pretty clueless in attack , defiantly missed young Dagger at full back , defence was all over the place
Best team won , no complaints
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Should Fev still receive a points deduction despite beating Leigh today with 14 men? Serious question.
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Should Fev still receive a points deduction despite beating Leigh today with 14 men? Serious question.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Should Fev still receive a points deduction despite beating Leigh today with 14 men? Serious question.'"
Would it be asking the same question if Toronto or Toulouse did the same? I doubt it.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Should Fev still receive a points deduction despite beating Leigh today with 14 men? Serious question.'"
Yes, having only 14 in a match day squad is a disgrace for a professional club. Maybe it’s because of shambles like this why sky sports show Championships Rugby Union but not Championship Rugby League.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Yes, having only 14 in a match day squad is a disgrace for a professional club. Maybe it’s because of shambles like this why sky sports show Championships Rugby Union but not Championship Rugby League.'"
[iIF[/i there was a punishment for not having 17 players, 3 of those injured would have been named who would have simply sat on the bench for 80 mins. Then all the faux outrage could have been avoided.
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| Let's just add some sensibility before claiming we couldn't field 17 because of our use of DR
Martyn Ridyard - Injured
Tom Holmes - Injured and released
Chris Ulugia - Injured
Jason Walton - Injured
Richard Moore - Injured
Scott Wheeldon - Injured
Dakota Whylie - Injured
7 players that would have been in that 19 unavailable through injury but let's blame dual reg because it fits out narrative...
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| Quote ="toastymcb"Let's just add some sensibility before claiming we couldn't field 17 because of our use of DR
Martyn Ridyard - Injured
Tom Holmes - Injured and released
Chris Ulugia - Injured
Jason Walton - Injured
Richard Moore - Injured
Scott Wheeldon - Injured
Dakota Whylie - Injured
7 players that would have been in that 19 unavailable through injury but let's blame dual reg because it fits out narrative...'"
Well said...Congratulations on your win today. So glad I didn't go ! I was getting a lift to the game off my mate, but he decided to watch the England v India cricket instead
He made the RIGHT choice !
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| Quote ="Leon Ashton"Disappointing that today a Huddersfield and a St Helens player have been selected instead of 2 of the clubs own players in JWH and Jones.'"
You've posted after the game had concluded today, but the coach should pick his best available squad, and I'm happy that he did. If Sion and James had shown their worth in training this week, then I'm sure they'd have featured today (but we'd still have been hammered).
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| Quote ="toastymcb"Let's just add some sensibility before claiming we couldn't field 17 because of our use of DR
Martyn Ridyard - Injured
Tom Holmes - Injured and released
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Jason Walton - Injured
Richard Moore - Injured
Scott Wheeldon - Injured
Dakota Whylie - Injured
7 players that would have been in that 19 unavailable through injury but let's blame dual reg because it fits out narrative...'"
Just to say, I wasn't dissing DR just because Fev have found themselves in this situation. Hats off to you for the win today, and I look forward to playing you again next season. My point was that DR (and the enticement of SL standard players) is negatively affecting Championship teams. You've been profoundly unlucky with your injuries (albeit some of them are historic and long term) but the facts are that if all teams had a reserve squad then fielding less than 17 players would never happen.
It costs in 5 figures for a Championship team to field a reserve team. Last I heard was £25k a year for Fax, but even if you double that, you could have a vibrant reserve league just with Championship clubs for £600k. Relatively small change for the RFL/Sky cash, and would deliver a strong and vibrant competition for the development of players outside of (or too old for) the SL academy structure.
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| Quote ="toastymcb"Let's just add some sensibility before claiming we couldn't field 17 because of our use of DR
Martyn Ridyard - Injured
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Jason Walton - Injured
Richard Moore - Injured
Scott Wheeldon - Injured
Dakota Whylie - Injured
7 players that would have been in that 19 unavailable through injury but let's blame dual reg because it fits out narrative...'"
Add in on loan Harry Newman who was on representative duty for Yorkshire Academy and that's 8
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| Quote ="toastymcb"Let's just add some sensibility before claiming we couldn't field 17 because of our use of DR
Martyn Ridyard - Injured
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Jason Walton - Injured
Richard Moore - Injured
Scott Wheeldon - Injured
Dakota Whylie - Injured
7 players that would have been in that 19 unavailable through injury but let's blame dual reg because it fits out narrative...'"
Leeds and Hull have been playing with that many injured all year. A “professional” club should still be able to field a full side.
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| HXSparky my response wasn't aimed at you. It was at our multi-accounted friend. I'm sure Leeds and Hull have much greater resources than we have in terms of being able to have a larger squad. If they're not needed guess what, they can go on dual reg. If Featherstone have a squad of 26 and everyone is fit, what do the other 9 lads do? Twiddle their thumbs?
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Leeds and Hull have been playing with that many injured all year. A “professional” club should still be able to field a full side.'"
Ah yes, Leeds, the club that in June had to buy a winger from Fev in order to field a team.........
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| If Leeds and Hull had hit the situation after the signing deadline, what would they have done?
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| Quote ="toastymcb"Let's just add some sensibility before claiming we couldn't field 17 because of our use of DR
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Jason Walton - Injured
Richard Moore - Injured
Scott Wheeldon - Injured
Dakota Whylie - Injured
7 players that would have been in that 19 unavailable through injury but let's blame dual reg because it fits out narrative...'"
Sorry mate, only SL teams are allowed to complain about injuries on here. Well, unless your team is either Toronto or Toulouse.
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| They were a laughing stock, only to you.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"I’m not sure what’s more embarrassing, claiming to be “the lifeblood of the sport” but only been able to name 14 players in your match day squad, or losing to the side that only has 14 players.'"
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Afterwards, Purtill held no punches.
“They turned up with 14 fully committed players. But I don’t think our guys were committed to the cause.
“Maybe we looked on the sheet and thought it would be an easy day. But as individuals, we have a responsibility to get ourselves ready for the game and I don’t think we did that.
“We were disgraceful and I don’t think we would have beaten Leigh Miners Under 12’s with that performance.”
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| When I first started watching the game, each team had 13 players and one sub. There was only one interchange allowed. Somehow we seemed to manage. Nowadays, even with only 14 players in the squad, although it obviously restricts your choices, you've still got 10 interchanges available, it's just far more difficult because each player coming off only gets a 5-10 minute break before having to go back on again.
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| Quote ="HXSparky"When I first started watching the game, each team had 13 players and one sub. There was only one interchange allowed. Somehow we seemed to manage. Nowadays, even with only 14 players in the squad, although it obviously restricts your choices, you've still got 10 interchanges available, it's just far more difficult because each player coming off only gets a 5-10 minute break before having to go back on again.'"
Perversely though, Fev's momentum wasn't interrupted, by changes of personnel. Ours, on the other hand was constantly being interrupted as we tried desperately to find a combination that worked!
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| Catalan should be fined and a points deduction too, disgraceful not selecting fully fit players.
Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Why should they? It was an utterly meaningless anticlimax to the magnificent Challenge Cup victory at Wembley. The Catalans coach even rested some of his star players for this game.'"
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