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| Quote ="pyeman"Its getting abit ridiculous with the ptb now, when we played kr earlier in the season the ref actually asked the video ref to check if the play off the ball was correct leading upto the try, the ptb wasnt correct but the try was awarded anyway. The the next game we played we got a penalty for incorrect ptb when we near the opposition line.
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| Quote ="barton baird"I know that may be sarky,but don`t worry about it mate.Rommel has his issues with F.C.
For gawds sake don`t mention Radford.'"
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Yep
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Not like you eh leaguefan same broken record as always.
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| I want to know why people think Cooke's try should have been disallowed? Cooke was holding the ball close to his body, not reaching out to put it down but holding the ball as he should be. Manu reaches around Cooke and places his hand on the ball, the ball comes free in a 1 on 1 tackle then Cooke lands on the ball in the in goal area which in my rule book is a try.
I too was a bit perplexed at first with the offside call against Yeaman as he was making an attempt to get back on side but as it has since been stated if he is offside at the ptb he isn't onside until the next play.
Hull were poor against Wakey but then Wakey were poor against Rovers so week to week you dont know which teams are going to turn up. The derby should be interesting because Rovers are full of confidence yet Hull are out to prove they are better than what they showed on Saturday.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Because Yeaman was in front of the play of the ball. It looked debatable on the telly but the lines-man seemed adamant so fair enough on the call but when the hell do you ever see something like that given? Where's the consistency?
Also enjoying how despite at least half of the PTB's not been played 'correctly' only select ones get called up. The ref swung the game. He first gave the penalty for not playing the ball (which again is fair enough as long as they do it consistently), then Wakefield take one drive, play the ball as bad as Tansey, then Cooke goes over and knocks the ball on... Great refing.'"
Agree with you Matty, in our set of 6 from that pen Rich Moore (if i remember right) played ball in exactly same way Tansey had, but played on and we scored just after.
Yeaman try was disallowed for him being offside- in frony of ptb, but technically could have been disallowed for incorrect ptb.
The games a joke when 3/4 through season they decide to tighten up on 1 thing.
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| Quote ="nick hkr"I want to know why people think Cooke's try should have been disallowed? Cooke was holding the ball close to his body, not reaching out to put it down but holding the ball as he should be. Manu reaches around Cooke and places his hand on the ball, the ball comes free in a 1 on 1 tackle then Cooke lands on the ball in the in goal area which in my rule book is a try.
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You missed the bit out where Manu's hand was still on the ball as it was grounded, before Cooke dropped on it, therefore it should have been a drop out.
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| It was certainly the most boring first half of rugby league shown by sky this season..and the second half was only marginally better.
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| Quote ="gazcoops"You missed the bit out where Manu's hand was still on the ball as it was grounded, before Cooke dropped on it, therefore it should have been a drop out.'"
If both attacker and defender ground it at the same time it's a try. To me it was Cooke's body and Manu's hand at the same time.
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| Quote ="bobm"If both attacker and defender ground it at the same time it's a try. To me it was Cooke's body and Manu's hand at the same time.'"
So Manu knocked it out his hands but Cooke's body was still touching it? When Manu knocked it out Cooke's hand, he also grounded it, Cooke's body dropped on it a split second after, re-watch it again and you'll see what happened.
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| Quote ="gazcoops"So Manu knocked it out his hands but Cooke's body was still touching it? When Manu knocked it out Cooke's hand, he also grounded it, Cooke's body dropped on it a split second after, re-watch it again and you'll see what happened.'"
Have watched it and re watched it,again and again and a try is given each time.
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| Quote ="Bertie"It was certainly the most boring first half of rugby league shown by sky this season..and the second half was only marginally better.'"
Actually I'd suggest that the first half of the Hull vs Wakefield game that Sky televised earlier in the season was more boring.
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| Quote ="Bertie"It was certainly the most boring first half of rugby league shown by sky this season..and the second half was only marginally better.'"
Thanks for pointing it out,as otherwise no bugger would have noticed.
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| Maybe you have a point, a drop out may have been the order of the day however with benefit of the doubt going to the attacking team I would have to concur to my earlier post and say a Try should be awarded. I would also suggest what an earlier poster said and a Try would have been given and no questions asked had it not been on Sky...well until All the Tries show!!!
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| I'm sorry, but there's no way in this world that Paul Cooke grounded that ball with control. If that had gone to the Video Ref, it would clearly have been chalked off. Whether it was knocked on, stripped, or whatever I aren't sure. But it certainly wasn't grounded correctly.
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| But the ball can be grounded with any part of the upper body, doesnt have to be the hand it can be your belly for all the officials care.
If the ball was stripped one on one then Cooke lands on it with his stomach its a try. However as I've watched it again it does apear that Manu when he stripped the ball also grounded it before Cooke managed to ground it, I do not see this being simultanious either and do think a drop out should have been awarded.
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| Why the big inquest?, it didn't affect the reult of the game. Chalk Cookie's try off and add the one on where Yeaman got penalised and it's 23-12. Everybody happy now.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I'm sorry, but there's no way in this world that Paul Cooke grounded that ball with control. If that had gone to the Video Ref, it would clearly have been chalked off. Whether it was knocked on, stripped, or whatever I aren't sure. But it certainly wasn't grounded correctly.'"
I suggest you read the laws mate. There is no mention what so ever in the laws of control, only that the ball should be grounded.
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| Quote ="ladyref"I suggest you read the laws mate. There is no mention what so ever in the laws of control, only that the ball should be grounded.'"
Which it wasn't.
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| listening to cummings on hull fc fans forum last night, he gave the impression that ganson got the decision wrong with wakeys first try
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| Quote ="number 6"listening to cummings on hull fc fans forum last night, he gave the impression that ganson got the decision wrong with wakeys first try'"
I bet the nights' fly by in your house. you should be worried what KR will do to you tomorrow night instead of whinging over something that happened 4 days ago.
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| Quote ="chissitt"sleepy.gif I bet the nights' fly by in your house. you should be worried what KR will do to you tomorrow night instead of whinging over something that happened 4 days ago.'"
i aint that bothered tbh, we was well beaten, i havn't mentioned anything until now so get down off your high horse! many people were questioning the decision after the game, this is the only reason i posted it!
as for kr, many times they've gone on about beating us by a huge score, like they expected to at easter, so no, not worried!
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| Quote ="number 6"i aint that bothered tbh, we was well beaten, i havn't mentioned anything until now so get down off your high horse! many people were questioning the decision after the game, this is the only reason i posted it!
as for kr, many times they've gone on about beating us by a huge score, like they expected to at easter, so no, not worried!'"
Ignore him he's a "big grumpy" at times
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| IF the Yeamo No Try was disallowed for him being offside at the PTB the penalty should have gone to Hull as every single Wakey player is offside and the square markers are stood about a meter either side of the PTB. The first offence is the defending team being offside.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"IF the Yeamo No Try was disallowed for him being offside at the PTB the penalty should have gone to Hull as every single Wakey player is offside and the square markers are stood about a meter either side of the PTB. The first offence is the defending team being offside.'"
Mmmm interesting, no really
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