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| Quote ="Quincy"A tremendous gesture from Steve O'Connor - one of many from the RL family. Leon Pryce, Jamie Peacock and Stuart Fielden are to be applauded too for auctioning off some priceless personal memorabilia from the height of their careers. Twitter is flooded with events/messages of support for the Bradford cause. Brings a tear to the eye & reminds us all why RL is the greatest game.'"
Yeah, well done for flogging your shirts and medals but what happens in 6 months time when another £xxx,xxx is needed?
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Yeah, well done for flogging your shirts and medals but what happens in 6 months time when another £xxx,xxx is needed?'"
Simple, it won't be.
This is the final part of Bradford's debt, this £1 million will make them a debt free club, something they've not been for a long long time. They'll more than likely be under new ownership in 6 months time. There won't be an impending image rights bill for them to foot.
There really are some bitter fans floating around. End story is, Super League simply needs a strong Bradford - that is why so many are getting behind them to help them out.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"Simple, it won't be.
This is the final part of Bradford's debt, this £1 million will make them a debt free club, something they've not been for a long long time. They'll more than likely be under new ownership in 6 months time. There won't be an impending image rights bill for them to foot.
There really are some bitter fans floating around. End story is, Super League simply needs a strong Bradford - that is why so many are getting behind them to help them out.'"
and you believe them? is there any guarantees if they somehow manage to get through this crisis they definitely will look to sell the club on.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"RBS dont agree with you. They seemed happy to value Odsal as an asset.
There is no cloak and dagger, you are just seeing what you want to see.
Bradford havent had an advance either.'"
Struggling on this one aren't you Smokey old lad. The years of abject nonsense you have peddled on here are finally catching you up.
Never seen you post such short replies - nothing to say, oh the joy - at least we can thank the Bulls for that.
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| Quote ="Quincy"A tremendous gesture from Steve O'Connor - one of many from the RL family. Leon Pryce, Jamie Peacock and Stuart Fielden are to be applauded too for auctioning off some priceless personal memorabilia from the height of their careers. Twitter is flooded with events/messages of support for the Bradford cause. Brings a tear to the eye & reminds us all why RL is the greatest game.'"
I have just puked in my mouth - thanks.
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| What worries me is...The million is debt, yes, pay it off - lovely, everyone is happy, the Bulls are debt free.
But theres then the running of the business to attend to and a whole season to get through.
The season ticket money is gone, the rush to buy the "new" shirt has gone, they will be paying the RFL rent for the stadium - where is the next revenue stream for the club? It's very likely that they will be in this situation again in X months time. I just cant see where the cash is going to come from.
Yes, theres the pay on the day money to come through, but what % of that goes to the opposing team? I heard a long while back 2-3 years (when they owned the stadium) perhaps, that they were LOSING money on gameday. With 7,000 (ST Holders) essentially in there for free, that situation looks a lot worse now than it did then.
I have emailed them asking to see the business plan going forward to see where they intend to create revenue streams from. It's damn sure not good marketing and on field performance. Businesses arent doing the whole "hospitality" thing any more - that is a premium offering and should be promoted as such - not offered at a cut down price/loss.
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| Relax people, your problems are over. Simply co opt your newest MP onto the Board and Gorgeous George will bell a couple of his rich arab chums for the neccessary....
and there will surely be enough left over, to erect some sort of a statue in your new duckpond to the great man!
Win/win all round I would say!,
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| Quote ="Paul124897" End story is, Super League simply needs a strong Bradford - '"
Sorry mate but no, it doesn't. The Bulls have been virtually anonymous for a good few seasons now & SL has rolled on quite nicely thank you. Truth is, SL just needs to serve its own agenda...clubs are subject to the whims of the RFL whoever they may be.
I hope the Bulls make it btw.
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| So what is the totaliser running at currently? Are they now safe?
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Relax people, your problems are over. Simply co opt your newest MP onto the Board and Gorgeous George will bell a couple of his rich arab chums for the neccessary....
and there will surely be enough left over, to erect some sort of a statue in your new duckpond to the great man!
Win/win all round I would say!,'"
You really could not make it up, could you? As if the city of Bradford hasn't got enough on its plate right now, we've just inherited bloody Galloway. Oh joy.
Duckpond...I like it! Not heard it called that before (most of us round these parts call it far worse...) but, if you don't mind, I'll shamelessly nick that for future use. Welcome to Bradford...the only city with Galloway, a Duckpond and a Hole in the Heart . At least we still have a top-flight RL team. Er...
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| Quote ="fartownfan"Sorry mate but no, it doesn't. The Bulls have been virtually anonymous for a good few seasons now & SL has rolled on quite nicely thank you. Truth is, SL just needs to serve its own agenda...clubs are subject to the whims of the RFL whoever they may be.
I hope the Bulls make it btw.'"
Hate to say it, but you are not far wrong there.
My own, personal view is that if fans etc of other clubs are prepared to help us in time of crisis (as I have helped other clubs a bit in times of theirs) then those are wonderful gestures - and I hope and expect the club are suitable appreciative. the fans certainly are.
Equally, if supporters of other clubs take the view that this is Bradford's problem and theirs to solve, they have every right to hold that view and cannot be criticised for it. And I don't really see anyone much attempting to do so. I can fully understand any feelings of "you reap what you sow" and so on.
You will certainly never see me say "SL needs a strong Bradford". Ultimately it doesn't. What it needs is a full complement of financially-secure clubs, and a level playing field as far as practicable. But I DO think l SL would be the worse for losing Bradford, and it would be a great pity if that was to happen. IMO.
My only request, to supporters of other clubs generally, is to try and avoid being misled by misinformation or (more to the point) lack of information.
I called a guy an idiot earlier because he was reeling off stuff that was factually so far from reality that it was laughable. And yet, on reflection I was very wrong to call him an idiot. Unless he is being deliberately mischievous (in which case I'll call him something else... ), he is just very badly informed. As are many of the posters expressing concerns or worse. And THAT is the fault of the Bradford board - no getting away from it. It won't give anyone any satisfaction to know that the Bradford fans are just as concerned about the need for improved communication and explanation. But no amount of blaming will solve the present crisis.
My posts on this forum have been aimed solely at trying to provide better information - or deduction/opinion where hard facts are hard to come by or (sometimes) cannot be set out on a public forum. Very occasionally, I have become annoyed at occasional individuals who are clearly revelling in our misfortunes. We are all angry enough finding this disaster dumped in our lap. Having people fanning the flames is not only unhelpful, it is also pretty uncivilised, I would suggest?
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Respect to your efforts on here - firefighting everywhere! A true fan.
Whatever the fallout from what has happened to the Bulls (and indeed what happens at any club) it's the fans that feel it in the heart. Good luck sir.
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| As a gesture of solidarity, Gary Hetherington has offered Peter Hood the two league points he wanted back after Tanseygate.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Respect to your efforts on here - firefighting everywhere! A true fan.
Whatever the fallout from what has happened to the Bulls (and indeed what happens at any club) it's the fans that feel it in the heart. Good luck sir.'"
Same here. Many good people seem to be defending what can no longer be defended, been there done that. It's a shame they see attacks on the clubs owners as attacks on themselves but that I suppose is human nature. Sport is an emotional affair, clearly not a business.
Adeybull put your obvious passion and energy in backing whatever comes next and you and your team will do OK. Keep backing this lot and it will wear you out. Read what you like into my comments but I have have had a long term dislike for the way SL is run and always found Bradfords management it's worst exponent.
I've said all I can say on the issue for now.
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I've said all I can say on the issue for now.'"
Thank f#ck for that
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| Quote ="bren2k"Have they got a big 'Blue Peter' style thermometer outside Odsal and if so, what's the grand total thus far?'"
11 degrees centigrade.
They've not really grasped the concept.
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| Quote ="vastman"Same here. Many good people seem to be defending what can no longer be defended, been there done that. It's a shame they see attacks on the clubs owners as attacks on themselves but that I suppose is human nature. Sport is an emotional affair, clearly not a business.
Adeybull put your obvious passion and energy in backing whatever comes next and you and your team will do OK. Keep backing this lot and it will wear you out. Read what you like into my comments but I have have had a long term dislike for the way SL is run and always found Bradfords management it's worst exponent.
I've said all I can say on the issue for now.'"
OK.
Now we come to the interesting bit.
I don't think it will be long at all before such of those questions and issues, that those with reservations and the downright sceptics (or worse, like you) are concerned about, and that the club is commercially able to address, will be. And it may be that a few people may get to need to revisit some of their opinions.
You heard it here first.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Thank f#ck for that'"
Oh the irony of that comment from that poster cannot have escaped anybody - 10/10 pure comedy gold Smokey
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| Quote ="Adeybull"OK.
Now we come to the interesting bit.
I don't think it will be long at all before such of those questions and issues, that those with reservations and the downright sceptics (or worse, like you) are concerned about, and that the club is commercially able to address, will be. And it may be that a few people may get to need to revisit some of their opinions.
You heard it here first.'"
I seriously doubt it but you knock yourself out.
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