Harvey Makin: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wi ... nity-links

Harvey Makin: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wi ... nity-links

I must admit as a club, I thought we were kind of past developing other clubs youth for them. I understand there is probably a benefit in it for us in the short term as it gives us an extra body but are we really that desperate for a prop? We are probably after another one with the quota spot we have I would assume but in the meantime could we not call on Shaw and give him a chance?

I would very much think Shaw is in the frame, but really we need 6 props. I wouldn't necessarily take him if we had other options to recruit someone permanently.

[quote="FIL":1nitkouw]Seeing as we've still got a quota spot available, this guy could be worth a shout ?? https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wa ... back-match[/quote:1nitkouw] Anyway, moving on

[quote="FIL":1nitkouw]Seeing as we've still got a quota spot available, this guy could be worth a shout ?? https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wa ... back-match[/quote:1nitkouw] Anyway, moving on

[quote="PopTart":lupfplgm]I would very much think Shaw is in the frame, but really we need 6 props. I wouldn't necessarily take him if we had other options to recruit someone permanently.[/quote:lupfplgm] Think we have 8 who can play prop. 7 I’d say are actual props. Mckmeeken Atoni Rodwell Uele Vagana Shaw Lingard Cozza

[quote="Trojan Horse":1cydnad1]Think we have 8 who can play prop. 7 I’d say are actual props. Mckmeeken Atoni Rodwell Uele Vagana Shaw Lingard Cozza[/quote:1cydnad1] They can play there but we should have 6 who play there without disrupting other positions. Of course Vagana could be the 6th but I think we are trying to make him a SR so he should be focusing on that first. Lingard is too young for now. He's an occasional player for me till he develops. Cozza no. He should only be cover. We don't have enough cover at 13.

[quote="PopTart":3mbzl5li]They can play there but we should have 6 who play there without disrupting other positions. Of course Vagana could be the 6th but I think we are trying to make him a SR so he should be focusing on that first. Lingard is too young for now. He's an occasional player for me till he develops. Cozza no. He should only be cover. We don't have enough cover at 13.[/quote:3mbzl5li] Vagana is a prop but we seem to be trying him more at second row. I think he will play on bench for us as a second row and come on for impact after 55/60. But he is a prop and certainly good enough and big enough to play there. Will be interesting to see how he develops. Shaw and Lingard are there if we start to struggle with injuries. At least we have options. 13 is an area we are short in, I’m curious who will be favourite to spell with Pitts in the 17. I think it could possibly be Hood for final 20.

[quote="Trojan Horse":3sd13yhm]Vagana is a prop but we seem to be trying him more at second row. I think he will play on bench for us as a second row and come on for impact after 55/60. But he is a prop and certainly good enough and big enough to play there. Will be interesting to see how he develops. Shaw and Lingard are there if we start to struggle with injuries. At least we have options. 13 is an area we are short in, I’m curious who will be favourite to spell with Pitts in the 17. I think it could possibly be Hood for final 20.[/quote:3sd13yhm] That's pretty much what I've just said But we need another prop if we don't want to move Vagzna from second row, nove Cozza from 13 or play a kid who isn't ready for a full season.

[quote="Trojan Horse":1rcyaowb]Vagana is a prop but we seem to be trying him more at second row. I think he will play on bench for us as a second row and come on for impact after 55/60. But he is a prop and certainly good enough and big enough to play there. Will be interesting to see how he develops. Shaw and Lingard are there if we start to struggle with injuries. At least we have options. 13 is an area we are short in, I’m curious who will be favourite to spell with Pitts in the 17. I think it could possibly be Hood for final 20.[/quote:1rcyaowb] If we were looking at bringing someone in, I'd be looking at a 13. Didn't think Cozza had a partivularly good game on Boxing Day, if I'm honest. I would say he is probably, the weak link in our pack if we have one

This next one he is really something different

[quote="God":352rngww]This next one he is really something different [/quote:352rngww] You can’t do that Come on spill the beans abit more

all adds to the excitement

Ok ok. Is it a 13?

[quote="God":32kqy52w]This next one he is really something different [/quote:32kqy52w] Oh no. It’s Hampshire isn’t it.

[quote="PopTart":31qf732y]That's pretty much what I've just said But we need another prop if we don't want to move Vagzna from second row, nove Cozza from 13 or play a kid who isn't ready for a full season.[/quote:31qf732y] Probably because we agree. I think we will start to struggle if we hit an injury in the back row as well as prop but I think luck could play a part. Let’s hope we don’t have to worry about it too much. Will be very interesting to see what we do with the last quota spot. So long as it’s quality coming in then all good. There’s a few things to consider like Pitts and Griffin and whether this is their last year in Superleague (or not). A top quality 13 would be my personal preferred option. But I trust the club as I’ve been impressed with the recruitment.

[quote="Eastern Wildcat":4c7uk9iu]If we were looking at bringing someone in, I'd be looking at a 13. Didn't think Cozza had a partivularly good game on Boxing Day, if I'm honest. I would say he is probably, the weak link in our pack if we have one[/quote:4c7uk9iu] Strange one with Cozza. I thought he came back looking fit and strong back end of last season and looked pretty good at 13. I think as rotation/back up he has something to contribute. It’s hard to say not seeing him at SL level much but I’m going to reserve judgement on him just yet as I’ve not really made my mind up about him.

[quote="Trojan Horse":3o9filq0]Strange one with Cozza. I thought he came back looking fit and strong back end of last season and looked pretty good at 13. I think as rotation/back up he has something to contribute. It’s hard to say not seeing him at SL level much but I’m going to reserve judgement on him just yet as I’ve not really made my mind up about him.[/quote:3o9filq0] If only Pitts wasn’t 5 years younger.

Agree on Cozza. He’s a really good all round player, just not brilliant at this level. And that’s a good player to have backing up. If we signed a top drawer 13 they’d surely depose Pitts, and do we need that this year? Next year, absolutely. I’m happy with our squad, have been for months. My only concern is our depth on the wing, but I’d be fine with Myers getting a shot (he has played there), or us bringing someone strong in on loan should it come to it. As for Makin, I was keen when I first heard about it, but reading that article my heart sank a bit. It’s totally fair of him to want to play for Wigan, but I’d only really want players who are desperate to play for Wakey right now, like Isaac Shaw. Perhaps Makin’s a slightly better player than Shaw - is it worth that shift in culture?

[quote="Pat Bateman":24rbxs61]If only Pitts wasn’t 5 years younger.[/quote:24rbxs61] True, but he wasn’t as good a player 5 years ago. Funny how it works like that for some players - right conditioning, right life stage, right role. I’m sure he wishes it had all happened sooner too.

[quote="Butcher":hflpgs21]True, but he wasn’t as good a player 5 years ago. Funny how it works like that for some players - right conditioning, right life stage, right role. I’m sure he wishes it had all happened sooner too.[/quote:hflpgs21] Yes good point, just look at Westerman, played arguably the best rugby of his career with us.

[quote="God":3h6d4dz2]This next one he is really something different [/quote:3h6d4dz2] Nice to see you on this fine Monday morning God What have you got for us old boy? "Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know (particularly about the great Wakefield Trinity)" - Jeremiah 33:3

[quote="homme vaste":1w77xong]Nice to see you on this fine Monday morning God What have you got for us old boy? "Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know (particularly about the great Wakefield Trinity)" - Jeremiah 33:3[/quote:1w77xong] good morning to you, lets just say your prayers are answered in the young we must trust. And I would stop smoking what ever that is

[quote="Butcher":b1spdczd]Agree on Cozza. He’s a really good all round player, just not brilliant at this level. And that’s a good player to have backing up. If we signed a top drawer 13 they’d surely depose Pitts, and do we need that this year? Next year, absolutely. I’m happy with our squad, have been for months. My only concern is our depth on the wing, but I’d be fine with Myers getting a shot (he has played there), or us bringing someone strong in on loan should it come to it. As for Makin, I was keen when I first heard about it, but reading that article my heart sank a bit. It’s totally fair of him to want to play for Wigan, but I’d only really want players who are desperate to play for Wakey right now, like Isaac Shaw. Perhaps Makin’s a slightly better player than Shaw - is it worth that shift in culture?[/quote:b1spdczd] Yes agree on both counts. I'd rather put faith in Shaw. The mind set is a big part of being successful and Makin's isn't on Wakefield And as you and Trojan say, we have to wait and see with zcozza. Right now I think he's good backup with potential to be good starter.