isnt the championship clearly 2nd rate? it being the 2nd teir of competition?

Yes it is second rate which is why people do not watch it in any great numbers apart from at clubs that have aspirations to get out of the league.

Simply advertising 'the stars of the future' in response to having no P&R would have zero effect on the crowds declining.

well i disagree, i think it would only have a positive effect

however, it would certainly raise the standard of the comp, which in itself should attract fans should it not?

No because it's about perceived standard rather than actual standard. Entertainment wise the league is the best it has ever been yet crowds have not risen.

It would instead mean a loss of identity to those clubs and they would in effect become glorified Reserve sides and would get the crowds that go along with a competition like that.

You're right, of course it would. I mean, who could argue with the thousands of people who go to watch SL reserve sides every week? After all, they're the stars of the future

That was in Beziers, wasn't it? Good going if so!

Sickening

tbh, I thought a decent crowd if you only put one player out.

It is dissapointing, what offers/deals do quins do if any?

some are, some very much arent,

this is the problem at reserve and academy level, the best youngsters we have are far too good to be playing reserve or academy level, but they probably arent ready for SL level yet

which is where the lower leagues come in, get the best youngsters playing that level, where they will be comfortable but tested, get them battle ready and used to playing grown men, they will improve and improve the standard of the league they are in,

the best of those not in SL + the best youngsters would create a higher standard of league below SL, a better pathway for young players, a place for fans to go watch a high quality game featuring the best young players in the country these seem like good things

The Club have again failed to increase crowds. The offers they do run are badly publicised if at all and therefore, pointless. Without a change of direction from the senior management, they will continue to tread water at the 3,500 mark.
Interestingly, HULL FC are giving away free tickets for this Friday's game, but there has been litttle or no activity from Harlequins Rugby League surrounding our last home game of the season on the 6th. I would follow the lead of Hull FC and open the gates to everyone and hopefully the team will turn up on the pitch and impress the curious locals.

considering you are still favourites for a playoff spot, and the cash that comes with that, its surprising and perhaps negligent not to get a good crowd for the lads!

Bit in Bold


Alas....you are right and the club just seem to be treading water.

Quins crowds are a big worry. Its not so much they are lower than everyones but by how many. If they were fgetting 4-5000 they would have a fair way to go but getting 2600 for a supposed top level RL club is terrible. The RFL should be putting them on notice their license is at risk and hopefuly that would encourage them to do something about the crowds. If they say they are doing everything possible then it is time to call it a day on a London club for now imo.

How they can only get 2600 is beyond me. In a city of 1/3rd that size in total non RL territory we can get 15000 to a game!

I would imagine that this was the case already...

alas, we have a purse string holder who has the attitude that this is his club and he will waste his money as he sees fit (IMO that is)

They are doing little or nothing....(again IMO)

Because 99.9% of the population don't know we exist and 99.95 of those that do, don't care

Bottom line is that the game in the south needs an injection of PROMOTIONAL CASH. not money that can be spent cuddling future LMS/Tony Clubb type players, but money spent letting local people know that LMS and Clubb exist.......

Rd 26 Aug 21-23rd

Hull V Quins 15,592
Salford v HKR 4,224
St's v Hudds 8,708
Wolves v Wakey 8,681
CC v Leeds TBC
Bulls v Catalans TBC
Cas v Wigan TBC



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Rd 19Rd Total = 60,260
Rd Avg = 8,608

Rd 20Rd Total = 53,471
Rd Avg = 7,638

Rd 21 Total= 63,645
Rd Avg = 9,092

Rd22 Total=60,192
Rd Avg = 8,598

Rd 23 Total = 67,053
Rd Avg = 9,579

Rd 24 CC split round

Rd 25 Total= 67,646
Rd Avg = 9,663

Rd 26 Total =TBC
Rd Avg =TBC

sporting life has celtics crowd as 5597

Gateshead's first crowd over 1,000 today, a 25% increase on their previous best for the season. Can't think why

AMEN.

Fighting to avoid the drop...................

Seriously, you took a fair few, well done on that.
Squicky bum time tho with them winning, you will have to go out and beat Fax, after all everybody else does

Rd 26 Aug 21-23rd

Hull V Quins 15,592
Salford v HKR 4,224
St's v Hudds 8,708
Wolves v Wakey 8,681
CC v Leeds 5,597
Bulls v Catalans 7,919
Cas v Wigan 6,579



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Rd 19Rd Total = 60,260
Rd Avg = 8,608

Rd 20Rd Total = 53,471
Rd Avg = 7,638

Rd 21 Total= 63,645
Rd Avg = 9,092

Rd22 Total=60,192
Rd Avg = 8,598

Rd 23 Total = 67,053
Rd Avg = 9,579

Rd 24 CC split round

Rd 25 Total= 67,646
Rd Avg = 9,663

Rd 26 Total = 57,300
Rd Avg =8,185


Disappointing round saved only by the HFC free give away.

B0ll0x......we brought at least 4,500

Slightly soured by Gateshead readily accepting thousands of pounds in extra revenue from the Leigh fans, and then issuing a statement [url=http://thunderrugby.com/news_article.php?id=220slating the away support![/url

ER.......hang on a moment. Are you saying that the complaints about drunken and abusive Leigh fans were unfounded or are you saying that Drunken and foul mouthed behaviour is OK?
Sorry, but if fans were being abusive and/or swearing then they should be ejected.
I have read the threads connected to this and I am amazed that anyone would try to defend such behaviour......let alone come on the VT to do so

Having read the thread on lasttackle from the Gateshead fans it seems very much a case of making a mountain out of a mole hill with people not liking swearing.