It helped them build early pressure which enabled them to build a 26-0 lead.


All the more reason to pick a player with some [igenuine[/i pace who can catch him.


Yes. But I wouldn't expect anything else.

Did you not see Briscoe (Tom ) almost catch Inglis ?

The tries came as a result of building pressure as a result of this tactic so you are wrong.


Correct. And?


Ah I see "kick well" - very specific tactic - thanks for your specific analysis of your view of the game plan as I requested.


Absolutely. I've simply highlighted Australia's game plan which was basically to kick behind the opposition's slow and immobile winger to build pressure.


I'm simply discussing RL with person with thinks a coach like Tim Sheens sits in a room in front of his team pointing to a board which reads:

"Kick well and move the ball wide quickly..."







Your limited analysis proves you see the game in limited detail.

Yes. But if Fox plays, Inglis is cut down way before the try line.

What's most worrying , is when Fox is possession of the ball.

Your one man tirade against Tom Briscoe says it all. However I wouldnt expect anything else from you...

It's most worrying for me as well. But it's just down to a lack of confidence.

Besides, it wouldn't be an issue when chasing down Inglis and co. because they'd have the ball.

I think Smith came in to cover for McGuire and in consequence we were easy pickings. You simply can't have two people doing one mans defensive work and leave so much space outside against a far quicker team.

I have nothing against the kid at all and I genuinely wish him well for the future because he has the potential to be a decent player.

What is actually more potentially damaging is FC fans "bigging him up" to be something that he isn't.

You've ruined several decent young players over the years by doing this such as Greame Horne, Tommy Lee, Craig Hall etc. etc.

It really doesn't do them any favours because when they day dawns that they don't reach your levels of expectation, you just slate them unfairly IMO.

Are you saying the inclusion of Fox in that side ,We wouldn't be 26 zip down at H/T ?

You are totally missing the point. Whether or not people think he has a big future is irrelevant to todays game. Briscoe did what was asked of him and was badly let down by players alongside him IMO. No more no less.

Your tirade against him is unecessary and generally b0ll0cks. You have not said a bad word against any other player tonight.

Fox's ball recovery would have been far quicker so you would have seen a different complexion to the match because England's exit sets would have been far better - as we saw in the 2nd half.

In terms of individual tries, he would have cut down Inglis when he had no support but of course Smith & McGuire's shocking defending positionally would have been hard for anyone to counter act because even though Fox would have caught individuals, no-one can stop an overlap.

*s*

As opposed to someone who thinks that Sheen's entire game plan consisted of 'kick the ball behind Tom Briscoe, lads, and the game's in the bag'.



You've been sulking and stamping your foot about Briscoe being picked ahead of Fox all week. Your posts tonight are merely the culminating dummy-spit.

Now run off and clean that sticky mess off your keyboard.

Agree in a fashion but he just didn't do what he was asked well enough which is why he should not have been picked in the first place because he simply does not have the athletic ability to cope at that level.


I've nothing against him personally, I'm simply providing analysis of why the substitutions had the effect they did.

Rubbish!, you seem to have a problem with anybody who represents the national side who plays for Hull.(iam not a F.C fan)

The problem was inside Briscoe,take your blinkers off









The problem was inside T.Briscoe, not the kid himself.

How do you know Briscoe did what was asked of him? I suspect he was supposed to follow Smith in field rather than staying out wide in defence.That's probably why he was taken off. Having said that, if that was Tony Smith's tactics it shows what a clown he is - you can't give a vastly superior and quicker backline the outside.

He's made 38 posts on Briscoe/Fox tonight so far. Think that goes [iwayyyyy[/i beyond impartial "analysis" TBH.

Translated.

Anyway.

West Tigers all-time top appearance holder Ben Galea has stated Peter Fox is the fastest player his has played with or against in his whole career.

His relatively poor performance in the SL fastest man competition was attributable to a specific reason which shall not be posted on this forum.

Wow.

Just.

Wow.

Not at all. I never once used or even implied that Tim Sheen's "entire" game plan was to kick behind a slow and immobile winger.


Not at all. I've made well-reasoned posts about why picking Tom Briscoe was the wrong choice and I have been proven correct by today's game.


Ah I see. Because you have failed to win the debate, you've chosen to try and manipulate readers of this board.

At this particular moment in time, I wanted to educate those who disagreed with my views who have this wacky idea that you can beat the Australians with a weak link in your back-three.

Tom Briscoe can't be blamed for the right sided defence shambles.
It happened long before he was called upon to defend.
Where was our right sided backrower? Who was he, Why was he never there?
Squad selection was wrong, team selection was wrong.
Who on earth could pick Moore and Roby ahead of Diskin?
Tony Smith did, it starts there and probably ends there too.

Still, 41 posts now in one evening on the same point. It almost looks like you're trying to make capital out of a 19 year old being played out of position, against the best team in the world, outside a useless centre, just because he plays for Hull FC. Coupled with last night's extended eulogy on how Fox is the only winger to come close to Offiah and I think we can agree that you're labouring the point somewhat.