Lack of quality being recruited? We have signed an England international an ex-new Zealand international, a Challenge cup winner who has the potential to be great darn lane, we have Gilmour who is one of the most experienced player in the Super League. A winger who was showing incredible promise before an injury and Hauraki who showed what he can do when he got played every week at Crusaders.

Happy Days await then.

agar's useless. He and wakefield make a good match

Agar has thrown a group of players together a matter of months before the season began, he had a limited budget compared to many teams in the league. To make the playoffs is a great achievement and deserves all the praise he gets, I know there are a lot of hull fans who are pleased for agar that he is doing so well at Wakefield.

First of all, you can do nothing other than agree with the op, Well done Richard Agar !
Has he done well at Wakefield ?, yes. To assemble a squad from virtually nothing, and then to take the club from a 13th place finish to 8th, without doubt makes Wakefield the most improved team in the comp.
It may prove to be a "lucky" first season in charge and there is no doubt that there will be somewhat more pressure on his shoulders next season as Wakefield will be expected to finish in the 8, but for season 1, he has done great job.
Argueably, he has acheived the maximum that can have been asked of him, so for all the Bulls fans that think their team should not have had a points deduction and the FC fans that say Gentle has done a better job at Hull, be honest with yourselves. This guy HAS done well

I have to confess I was not happy with his appointment and come mid season hand on heart couldn't wait to hopefully see the back of him. I don't know what happened mid season but it was truelly unbelievable the turn around in fortunes. He has to take huge credit for this.

Big pat on the back to all concerned, I got it badly wrong - fingers crossed for some quality signings and another push at the 8 next season.

Agar has done well but crucially at Hull he made inept decisions, was a yes man and couldn't come up with the tactical nous that we needed to progress nor even motivate the players it seemed.
You(wakey) had a 7 game winning streak which was excellent, however we had an opening season 5 game winning streak in 2009 beating Wigan, Catalans, Hudds, Bradford & Crusdaers, not a mean feat at all. It all went tits up as we lost 6 on the trot to Cas, London, Salford, Rovers, St.Helens & Wakefield. We went on to win only a further 5 matches the whole season including the CC & a play off game against the dobbins at home. I really hope that doesn't happen to you next season but I fear this season end was a flash in the pan and Wakey won't reach the play offs next year. (& no I aint gonna do a Schoey if they do..lol)

I was very much against Agar during his tenure at the KC, as a person he is a nice bloke but as a coach he was out of his depth. I was however very interested to see how he would get on at Wakefield this season with no interference from the board etc.
The season started poorly for him and the Wildcats but you have to give him and the team credit for turning it around in the latter part of the season. He had the benefit of having no pressure on him this season as the expectation levels are lower at Wakefield (not a dig a Wakey) he also has the benefit of having a few more years coaching experience under his belt. The acid test of course will be how they kick on from here.
Good luck to him as we really do need some good British coaches coming through.

Nice to see balanced comments from FC, good on ya.

Can't be bothered writing this out myself so Ive shamelessly pinched it from another forum.







I think Richard Agar has done a superb job and his achievements surpass those of Gentle, Wayne and Potter making him the best candidate for SL coach of the year

You're spouting total rubbish fella, the Leeds Wakefield game was in the balance right up to the last 10 minutes. Wakefield lead three times during the game and bombed a chance with just 9 minutes to go. Leeds scored twice in the last 6 minutes to secure the win.

If you think that constitutes a thrashing because of how the scoreboard read at the end then you're a fool who as no understanding of sport.

Wakey fans said this about Kear too. Look how that turned out.

Agar was a terrible coach, had no respect in the dressing room and ended up as a Hetherington puppet. We were well rid of him and his "pick my mates" methods.

Hull have massively improved this year under Gentle. We didn't beat Leeds under Agar either, if I remember correctly.

Agree, both have been terrible this year!

Wakefields useless performances in relation to the mighty Hull FC
Finished a whole two places below super Hull FC in the league
2 tries all at the KC and only lost out on goal kicks to Gentle inspired Hull
beat GatesHull Thundersharks out of sight at Belle Vue

Useless!

Kear is the best coach we have had in decades at Wakefield. Every coach moves on at some stage. His departure was more to do with administration and chanegs at the club than him.

We 'have' beaten Leeds so that example doesn't match up either.

For me the measure of a coach is how he improves the players in his charge. Agar has done that at Wakefield. We are happy with him at Wakefield......don't see why the Hull fans have any reason to moan any more.

Hul two years ago got 32 points in the league with Agar as you have now. Last year you had two wins and a draw less.....hardly ground shaking improvemnt to go back to 32 points.

There are differences that only Hull fans will notice, points etc do not always tell the whole story as most people know. You only have to look at the shirt numbers at Hull to realise how much as changed during the course of this season alone.

As for improving players, has he really done that this year? He started with a new influx of players (not sure on how many) so it is hard to gauge whether he has improved players when you don't have previous seasons to compare to. Like I said before he has done well so far but the acid test is 2013.

The only people who can form a true opinion of Agar are the Wakefield fans, who get to see the team week in week out and not those of us who see the odd sky game and the games against our own team.

Surely, if the Wakey fans are happy with him that's all that matters. I wasn't sorry when he left us but I didn't have any personal issues with him. Good luck to the guy and to Wakey. The more strong Yorkshire teams the better for me.

I'm sure that Mr Gentle will do well at Hull but, this thread is titled "Richard Agar, well done" and from last season to this, his first in charge, nobody can doubt that he has done well.
Last season we won 7 games and finished 13th with 10 points (after a 4 point deduction).
This season we finished 8th with 13 wins with 26 points. Just eat humble pie like the rest of us and agree that he has done well.
Tomorrow is another day and we will all start again on 0 points next season.

Regardless of your club affiliation, it's clear that Richard Agar has done a good job at Wakefield this season, as has the new Chairman.

We came out of administration and one way or the other clung on in SL by the skin of our teeth. Since then, the club has achieved a top 8 finish, posted a 25% increase in attendances and has made significant progress towards a brand new stadium that will put us amongst the best provisioned clubs in SL.

We don't expect any flags or balloons just yet, but I would've though that anyone who had an interest in the wider fortunes of RL should be pleased about the fact that a historic club appears to be finally sorting itself out?

Nah, you're not iconic enough. We only care about Bradford.

Which is a fair point, but it was a Wakey fan who dragged Gentle into this thread.

Tbf, I think it was BoxerTom and i've not seen him posting on the Wakey board before and wasn't aware that he was a Trin fan, but you obviously know him

So you're saying that Gentle has doe a better job at Hull than Agar as at Wakey, is that right?

If you think Hull was in a mess, i'd hate to think of a word Trinity was in at the start of the year with 17 new faces and recovering from administration.

I was replying to a previous comment that brought Gentle into it. I don't have to eat humble pie, check my previous post in the thread.

Cos I havnt and cos I'm not

Agar has done well for Wakey.Wakey fans are glad they have him,so am I,everyones a winner.