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For me Prop is what we are short of. Not a quality issue, but an attritional one. People go on about middle and I get it, but looking at ours none look as though they would be overly comfortable playing as out and out props in an emergency.



I don’t think the player would need to be top notch, just a dependable player with a bit of size. There are a few around.

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My point exactly, other than McMeeken, our other starting props are either unproven at SL or have a point to prove. It does worry me. I was disappointed when Bowden signed elsewhere because whilst he isn’t a world beater, he is robust and experienced enough to be a key part of the team.



You then look at if one of our first 4 props is injured who steps up? Bain and Vangana are both inexperienced and probably a little lightweight. Storton, probably would be my preference to step up but isn’t a natural prop.



So I go back to my previous post, even though it wouldn’t be a exciting or inspiring signing, a experienced and robust SL prop is needed in my opinion.

Rodwell, Atoni, Mckmeeken, Uele - will be our starting 4.



Vagana, Shaw, Bain, Lingard are our back up props. I think Vagana would be a good step in but there’s questions over the others. But for the off game we should be fine.



Would be nice to find one more prop from somewhere. Think we will only start to struggle if we get 2 or more injuries to props. We can cope with 1 out.



I’m sure there’s plenty about though who are hunting a loan deal or game time like Eseh, other Wigan prop if and when needed.

Bowden was a loss for me but Powell decided that was the right thing to do.



I guess we have to give Shaw game time if he is to develop so we should tryst that he can.

To a certain extent Bain is the same.



Vagana would be fine but I'd rather let him develop at SR.



Cozza is a 13 for me. No more a prop than Pitts.

Pitts started his SL career with us as a prop so he has the knowledge. However I agree he’s not a prop anymore, he’s actually a perfect example of the arms race where player size is concerned. In the late 2000s he was adequate, now he’s just not big enough imho.

Doesn’t even need to be SL imho. A fringe player or an ambitious young championship player would do fine for me. So long as the attitude is right and they are robust, that would be fine. Bit like a Rodwell, but a U.K. version, won’t be as good but still decent. Saw a few tough lads last year who’d do ok without ever being first choice.

Not many did at that point. Players grow up, he’d do as cover so long as he was willing to accept that.

Do not think it comes down to out bid , Like Hall played at Leeds most of is career

If he accepts being here as cover I don't want him.

He's a starting prop for a playoff team. He should be aiming to be our best prop

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I'd take Singleton, but I think Chris Hill could do a job for 12 months as well.

Agreed.



Still goes very well.



I’d take either in that role as disruptor who can do big minutes if needed who may not look spectacular but does the basics well and is hurtful in defence.



Their experience would also be very useful.



Wigan showed last year how important it is to have quality in depth in the props and it will be more important this year with the concussion/head knock protocols and teams being expected to manage minutes of their players.