I’m not sure that either attending oxford or working in the civil service have any relevance to a commitment to republicanism. Self-esteem, on the other hand, is very relevant!

Don’t particularly care for the republican/monarchy debate (it’s not broken), but if North Korea had our national anthem we’d be taking the out of them.

God save our gracious leader, long live our noble leader, god save our leader

What’s that got to do with the country?

I'd never thought of it that way, but you're absolutely spot on.

So, the question now is how do we get it changed?

Land of Hope & Glory

I'm not sure about that. Any other family would be labelled as completely dysfunctional.

The Queen pays 20% on her personal income, voluntarily, after years of paying no tax what so ever. Her legitimacy as a monarch is only down to the arcane rules by which we live. There is no reason what so ever that the people of this country should not be given the choice, by referendum, to keep the monarchy or not, just as there is no reason for the government not to rewrite the statute book to make the personal income, of the monarch, or any benefit in kind, taxable. In this day and age we need to slim down the cost of monarchy and to stop pretending that they are the chosen ones of God. At the very least we need to hold our ruling class to account for what we provide for them.

Italy are having a debate about replacing their Rossini penned anthem with one from Verdi. We would probably replace GSTQ with a medley by Queen. What about "we will rock you"?

We'd probably end up with a national anthem written by One Direction

I have to laugh at posts like this and the people that comment. I guarantee that a proportion of people who think our majesty has done wrong are the people who will lay a few bricks or unblock a toilet at the weekend for cash without declaring it

Regards

King James

Not forgetting lots of pension pots sit abroad.

No England teams in any sport should sing GSTQ. That’s the anthem of the United Kingdom Of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, England doesn’t have an official NA but I’ve always thought it should be Land Of Hope And Glory. And we have played that before England internationals before now, although not sang it as an anthem.

But why not?!

The National Anthem is a song about the monarch and rock all to do with the country and its so bloody dull (the anthem, not the country).
Having said that, we have tried Jerusalem and Land of Hope and Glory at Internationals and while thel are more uplifting musically, the is not much in the way of crowd participation.

Yet more cr@p from the self appointed "king", another strong argument for getting rid of the monarchy

Maybe S Club Party by S Club 7? YMCA by the Village People??

There is nothing in the national anthem for me. 'God save the queen'.I don't believe in god , I don't believe in the monarchy and why does the queen need saving?.She is a fabulously wealthy person.It is poverty stricken working class people that need saving in this country and also in the queens 'commonwealth' that she seems to be so proud of.

Dodging tax whilst we all fork out £370m to repair her house: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39280770 It's a ridiculous anthem, and one I personally choose not to sing. There's nothing about our country in there, just a ditty about one woman's health & puts us in our place as she see's us, as mere plebs. The Royal Family are a bunch of parasites, leaching off the hard work of the people of this country for 1,000 years.

Dodging tax whilst we all fork out £370m to repair her house: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39280770 It's a ridiculous anthem, and one I personally choose not to sing. There's nothing about our country in there, just a ditty about one woman's health & puts us in our place as she see's us, as mere plebs. The Royal Family are a bunch of parasites, leaching off the hard work of the people of this country for 1,000 years.

Never understand why Wales and Scotland have their own rousing anthems but England (and NI) are stuck with GSTQ, is it a case of England are seen as Great Britain while the others are accepted independent countries? either way it's not very passionate or rousing.

I think they used to use GSTQ (seem to remember reading that Scotland football fans eventually ended up booing it) but then they decided they wanted something more specific, whereas England just kept using it. I don't like GSTQ as a national anthem and I don't sing it when I attend England matches of whatever sport.

I see that members of the Royal Family have once again managed to attend this weekend's RU internationals but can't be bothered to attend the RLWC ie the more exciting version of the game.

They're in London for Remembrance Sunday, bit of a difference to nipping over to Twickenhan than travelling over to Australia.

Surely the chip on some RL fans shoulders can't be that big even after I pointed out Prince Harry didn't go to a Lions match even though he was in Australia at the time.

If it was a home WC you'd have a point, but it's not so you just look daft.

How about 'Oh England My Lionheart' by the blessed Kate Bush as a worthwhile anthem for us ? She is surely a national treasure, after all. www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDjycF9uMHE

How about 'Oh England My Lionheart' by the blessed Kate Bush as a worthwhile anthem for us ? She is surely a national treasure, after all. www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDjycF9uMHE

At the last count there's plenty of Royal Family members to cover if Harry had travelled to Australia and as they observe Rememberence day in Australia he could have attended that also.

After watching haka at the start of the NZ Tonga, couldn't we incorporate something like this. I was thinking maybe a Morris dance and as they skip around James Graham could skip around and hit the opposition with a pigs bladder, no bells of course, that would be silly. Would love to see this brought in. Come on England!!

So you think Remembrance Sunday is just about having enough Royal Family to "cover" the occasion.

That you're criticising someone for attending Remembrance Sunday over a RL match in Australia where even the coach has put out a 2nd strong side is ridiculous.

Damn Prince Harry, he shouldn't be remembering those who have lost their lives for this country, he should be watching Kevin Brown at HB and Stefan Ratchford play on the wing.....that's more important.

The thing I'm unhappy about is the reluctance of the Royal Family to attend any major RL event whereas they always appear to have time to attend RU games. If it turns out that they prefer the other game then fair enough but if that is the case why did the Queen and then Harry accept the role of Patron?