Bloody hell, Ryan Hall scored 23 tries last year, 28 in 2009, and 14 so far this season, he made 3300 yards in 2009, 2800 in 2010, and 2000 so far this year, 78 tackle busts in 2010, 70 in 2009, and 44 so far this year, all of these are among the top 20 (most in the top 5) of any player in SL, never mind wingers, its pretty harsh to say he has done nothing.

Quote ="J20"Yea more errors and missed tackles from Charnely in less games Just kidding they are impressive stats, but has he played centre as well?'" No hes been on the wing each time hes played for Wigan wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1486 He played centre for HKR last year though. Hes prone to the odd error but he does make up for it in the work he gets thru each game. Also the more tackles you make the more you're going to miss I didnt post those stats to say Josh Charnley should be playing for England because I dont think he is ready at all. I just wanted to highlight that fact that Foster is rubbish compared to most, but people rate him because of his excellent goal kicking.

Quote ="J20"Yea more errors and missed tackles from Charnely in less games Just kidding they are impressive stats, but has he played centre as well?'" No hes been on the wing each time hes played for Wigan wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1486 He played centre for HKR last year though. Hes prone to the odd error but he does make up for it in the work he gets thru each game. Also the more tackles you make the more you're going to miss I didnt post those stats to say Josh Charnley should be playing for England because I dont think he is ready at all. I just wanted to highlight that fact that Foster is rubbish compared to most, but people rate him because of his excellent goal kicking.

ya know who they should groom for wellens FB spot??...tom makinson...

Lomax should have played.

As a winger Foster is worse than average. Charnley is much better and I wouldn't even put him in.

has foster always been a winger?


i ask cos he's not particularly quick from what i've seen....not "winger" quick anyway...but he's got good hands,good feet and can kick a ball......strikes me he's a halfback...or was??? whats he's background??

I think he played centre in Saints academy? Has also played a bit of FB too.

Centre mostly,some at fullback.
Wigoon and Dire fans rubbishing a Saints player,who'd of thought.

Not all of us, he's hardly put a foot wrong whenever I've seen him play. A cracking young player.

wirewonder spouts his jizz on here because he was banned from the widnes boards after we all got fed up with it.

we all know what sinfield can do at 6 and we all know what lockers can do at 6.....on both counts its nothing more than solid at best. if widdop is going to play 6 in the 4 nations, to me it would have made sense to give brown and lomax, who are the two best english 6's at the moment the run. sinfield should be in the squad predominantly as a 9, especially with the roby withdrawal. every time i have seen lomax, i have been impressed

with regards to foster, i would have put him on the advertising posters, but not yet on the wing........

Lomax is better than Myler. Lomax seems to have a more rounded game plus commands 1st receiver better. Myler isnt authorative enough and is not a good enough organiser for England. Foster isnt good enough for England either imo. Not strong or quick enough for the top level, and by the sounds of it his work rate out of acting half aint great either. Some young players hype exceeds how good they actually are these days.

Fro Saints, Foster has been great this season. He's got some good attributes and a lot of confidence in his ability which is helping him play very well. But would I put him in the top 5 wingers in the country (English)? Not really.

Hall and Briscoe have that extra something, particularly size when it comes to playing the Aussies. Charnley is going great guns at Wigan.

Foster has had a good year but tbh he is way off Briscoe. Tom has been a little off colour in recent weeks but is by far the most dangerous outside back we have. He is capable of making a try from absolutely nothing and does so fairly often. On top of that he carries the ball really strongly, wins penalties, gets plenty of offloads and tackles well. His only weakness is probably under the bomb. He isnt terrible but he doesnt like it when a steepling kick goes to his corner.

Everyone criticising Jamie is just jealous because he's so much better looking and cooler than you.

You've sussed me out.

Lomax is a quility player. Cannot understand why he didn't play against the exiles and we went for a "support playing" 7 and a loose forward at 6. Glad we played the Exiles because hopefully Mcnamara will now drop Myler completely and either play Sinfield at 13 or not at all. If we'd have played France we'd have battered them and everone saying Myler and Sinfield are our saviours, then we would have got battered in the 4N. If i was to pick my half bak pairing now id go for Brough (if fit) at 7, Widdop at 6 with Lomax covering both positions.

Fosters the defintion of average, just so happens to be a world class goal kicker. He's a good finisher, but how many of his tries have been more than 10m out? Doesn't work anywhere near hard enough for me (which is such an important attribute for a winger) His defence isn't great either. He's just a goal-kicking version of Ade Gardner, scores plenty of tries (most of them just falling over the line) and look where that got us. Although i'd say Gardner was playing better than Foster because of the amount of metres he chewed up for his team.

For me the wingers in contention are;

Briscoe
McGilveray (spelling?)
Hall
Broughton

Lomax should be in – no doubt. His all round game is some way ahead of Myler and the halves for the 4 Nations should come from a combination of Brough, Widdop and Lomax

I have nothing against Foster and he is a solid winger with good skills but I don’t think he is suited to international league where wingers have to do a lot of working bringing the ball out of their own half – for me, McGilvray and Briscoe are the best in the comp at this and are good finishers too. These two and Hall should be in the squad

Assuming you've got anther goal kicker, there's better wingers for england than Foster, although he'll do nicely for Saints. I think if he's to kick on, it won't be as a winger, but as a centre or fullback.

Lomax is a star of the moment and I would prefer him at half back to Myler, but let's face it, its only a matter of time before he gets his chance.

Or, he could be the next Tommy Martyn/Lee Briers and never pull on the shirt in his career

All this Foster talk is irrelevant really. As long as McBanana is in charge all England's wingers will be required to do is return kicks. Finishing ability is not an issue because the ball never leaves the middle of the park when we've got it

Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"Foster is a Darrell Goulding who can kick goals, just look at his stats compared to Josh Charnley, despite Charnley playing less games: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Lomax on the other hand is superb and I would love to see a halfback partnership of him and danny brough in the 4 nations.'" Well from the Stats that I would consider to be important to a winger it suggests that they are very even. Charnley has a slight better try scoring rate 0.75 to 0.79, however fosters first few games were off the bench for the last 10 minutes. On average charnley makes about 70cm more per carry which isn't very much considering he has a bigger frame than foster. Tackle busts Are an area that charnley wins hands down but foster has more clean breaks, less penalties conceded and less missed tackles. Add to that foster is one of the best kickers around and there is no reason why you would pick charnley ahead of foster.

Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"Foster is a Darrell Goulding who can kick goals, just look at his stats compared to Josh Charnley, despite Charnley playing less games: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Lomax on the other hand is superb and I would love to see a halfback partnership of him and danny brough in the 4 nations.'" Well from the Stats that I would consider to be important to a winger it suggests that they are very even. Charnley has a slight better try scoring rate 0.75 to 0.79, however fosters first few games were off the bench for the last 10 minutes. On average charnley makes about 70cm more per carry which isn't very much considering he has a bigger frame than foster. Tackle busts Are an area that charnley wins hands down but foster has more clean breaks, less penalties conceded and less missed tackles. Add to that foster is one of the best kickers around and there is no reason why you would pick charnley ahead of foster.

runs from dummy half...1per game is'nt good enough

True that is an area he needs to work on.

There was an article on the RFL site today about Lomax and his possible future England career.

I'm a Wigan fan and although Foster probably isn't quite ready, he's much better than Charnley.

I agree with the Ben Jones-Bishop mention as well. Theres many players coming up so hopefully by 2013 we might win the World Cup!

Define finishing ability. Any winger worth his salt can run in tries from ten yards out when his centre has put him in the clear. Admitedly I dont watch him every week but aside from the try when he caught the ball behind him iv never seen him score and thought, "how has he done that?" I dont really judge a winger by how many he scores. More how he scores them, because in a good attacking team even an avarage winger will score alot of tries.