So you ARE trying to justify and condone what Tamou did. That's an interesting turn around.

Slapping somebody is over the top, but it happens

Punching somebody for slapping somebody is over the top, but it happens

If Tamou hadn't slapped Galloway Garbutt wouldn't have punched him - we can go round like this all day.

The point is that you did put a slant on what Tamou did by calling it a push. It wasn't a push, it was an aggressive strike to Galloway's face, and from Garbutt's viewpoint it quite possibly looked like a punch. he understandably didn't wait around for an inquest, he did what props sometimes do and laid the idiot out.

There is nothing special in this incident, there is nothing especially wrong or aggressive - and certainly no thuggery - in Garbutt's actions. It was bog standard prop-on-prop fisticuffs. Garbutt got the red he deserved and a ban we all expected.

What has got me (and many others) riled up here is that people are trying to make out it was something it wasn't, that it was out of the ordinary, a sneak attack, a grub move, a sucker punch, thuggery, assault, whatever you want to call it. It was none of those things. It was a standard RL punch and you'll see several more like that this season, I just hope they don't all get accompanied by the bed wetting that this has.

So the nonsense that went on in the tackle is all ok ?

Full facial plus forearm over his throat so yes, on that basis a push/slap/tap (or whatever you want to call it) is certainly understandable. Whether it's justified is a different question.

I don't think anyone is bed wetting, the punch was a little more that we see in the weekly rounds of SL but, it's been dealt with (2 game ban) which I and many others have said, seems about right.

The KR fans are still unhappy with the 4 games that their man got for something that appeared more accidental than deliberate but, these things happen with the judiciary.

Plenty of bedwetting if you're willing to have a look - and that's without going in to the threads started by idiots like Pacific who directly compared the punch to the actions of Ben Flower.

Say nonsense like the above and don't be surprised that Leeds fans call it for the bull that it is.

It was nothing different to what you see countless times in every match and Tamou was pushing his forearm into Galloway's throat whilst he was trying to hold him down so they were both at it. What you don't see every match is someone getting up and slapping his opponent.

I'll reserve judgement on the Leeds fans until one of their own is on the receiving end.

I'll reserve judgment on the Wakefield fans until one of their own is in Garbutt's position and see if you condemn so strongly.

Do you mean like when Lee Radford went to town on Ryan Bailey who was on the floor, unable to defend himself and on the receiving end of 3 haymakers?

An incident that was widely applauded on these forums and one that saw Radford get only a one match ban - one that was overturned on appeal?

I think Leeds fans responded with incredulity. But that wasn't toe to toe fisticuffs so I should really pick a better example, maybe when Briers hit Carl Ablett on the back of the head when Ablett wasn't looking. Briers didn't even get sent for ten, let alone a ban and I think Leeds fans responded with incredulity. But that wasn't toe to toe fisticuffs either. Gosh, this is tough...

We've had our fair share.

Also Paul Wood punched Ablett in the 2012 CCF and only a penalty. Joe Wardle punched Ablett (again) 4 or 5 times even after the ref had shouted at them to separate when they were squaring up and he received the same punishment as Garbutt.

If Tamou has a big hairy prop holding his shirt collar with his arm cocked and "isn't expecting" anything then he's a bigger idiot than I first thought. Best dig I've seen at HQ since Keef flattened Wilkin. Bring Back The Biff!

Joe Wardle on Ablett a few years back, some of the 'Leeds mob' were getting the gallows ready!

basically as i see it, it's wrong to punch a player like Garbutt did, unless, severely provoked, which Garbutt wasn't, i'm sure most would agree, it was just a way of showing some frustration/aggression because they were getting smashed on the scoreboard.
Galloway, gave Tamou a bit of a facial, that would probably have been a penalty to NQ had Tamou not reacted with a slap, ( i'm sure Leeds fans would agree that anyone giving some facial in the tackle deserve at least a slap), Galloway could have walked away and it would have been penalty to Leeds, but then Garbutt decided to play hero ( or villain). no need for him to get involved, he wasn't "protecting" himself or a team mate, he wasn't provoked either.

so basically, Galloway and Tamou were both tools but Garbutt was a power tool!

but just like Wigan fans did with Flower, Leeds fans will defend their man.

From a neutral perspective (Salford fan)I think the 2 matches he got was fair punishment. Tamou's response to Galloway (while a bit girly) wss warranted... though would've been better if it was a proper dig or at least a more manly square up! Garbutt probably thinks it's a punch so I've no problem with him wading in with a (very nicely executed

) right hand. RFL decide to give him a 2 match ban.... fair enough so let's move on.

No need for histrionics... anyone calling it a "king hit" or "blindside" is talking b0ll0cks. I'm pretty sure I remember that Senior landing the mother of all cheap shots in a Challenge cup match many moons ago. He might even have been playing for Sheffield at the time but swung a rabbit punch at the back of a melee and got off scot free!

Wish there were more flare ups these days, gets the crowd fired up and might be a better alternative to whipping up an atmosphere than those s0dding drummers that most SL clubs seem to have these days!

Quote ="meast"basically as i see it, it's wrong to punch a player like Garbutt did'" A quote from Meast after the aforementioned Joe Wardle/Ablett incident....viewtopic.php?f=26&t=550279 Quote ="Meast"bit disappointed he didn't put ablett on his backside, that would have been worth the red card usually I berate players who do silly things like get himself sent off, wardle's standing ovation yesterday I think showed that most fans thought he did right by standing up to leeds dirty play.'" A lot more back slapping for Wardle on that thread too so hmmmm..... Quote ="Meast"but just like Wigan fans did with Flower, Leeds fans will defend their man.'" Or Hudds fans too

Quote ="meast"basically as i see it, it's wrong to punch a player like Garbutt did'" A quote from Meast after the aforementioned Joe Wardle/Ablett incident....viewtopic.php?f=26&t=550279 Quote ="Meast"bit disappointed he didn't put ablett on his backside, that would have been worth the red card usually I berate players who do silly things like get himself sent off, wardle's standing ovation yesterday I think showed that most fans thought he did right by standing up to leeds dirty play.'" A lot more back slapping for Wardle on that thread too so hmmmm..... Quote ="Meast"but just like Wigan fans did with Flower, Leeds fans will defend their man.'" Or Hudds fans too

He's a troll hence the

. Nice work outing him though!

Indeed, it happened about a metre from my very young eyes, looking through the railings (I was too small to look over them) at the Wheldon Road end. There was a bit of a fracas in the in goal area and Senior just belted BJ Mather, breaking his jaw. BJ was unable to continue and Senior went on the score two tries in the centre channel BJ would have been defending. However, given BJ's defensive shortcomings, Senior would likely have scored more had he not put him out of the game.

bless going through posts just to "bully" me

i seem to remember Leeds fans wanting his head on a block etc, he was IIRC, provoked by Ablett, Garbutt wasn't

No, to mock you.



Ahh so Leeds player throws punch it's all the Leeds player fault.
Hudds player throws 5 punches at a Leeds player it's Leeds players fault.

Leeds fans wanted him banned for an appropriate length for REPEATED punches and his ban of two games (same as Garbutt) was leninant.

The small club mentality of our near neighbours out in full force on here.

He's not bullying you, he's showing you up for the 2 faced, one eyed, hypocritical forum troll that you are. Unlucky.

Will you be condemning James Green for lamping Travis Burns?

Burns and Green must recieve bans, we have got to be consistent.

The hypocrisy from the Leeds fans is laughable. Were they not just whining recently about Hull KR whining about consistency?

Wardle and Ablett had a spat, Wardle smashed Ablett, Ablett took it, Wardle rightly got a red card and a ban.
Garbutt had nothing to do with the spat between Galloway and Tamou.

Hardly a troll, just because you disagree with me doesn't make me 2 faced or a troll.
the "bullying" was a tongue in cheek reference to a previous post, keep up.

and i haven't seen the game last night so can't comment.

So we've gone from it being wrong unless "SEVERELY provoked", to just "provoked", to they "had a spat"

the point still stands.

Enough,