If he does, I can help him.
Wellington Hurricanes frst 2 home games this season.....11,000 at each. The wendyballers of the pheonix had 24k 2 weeks ago and have sold all 35k for this week........and there's me thinking Rugby Union was a religion in New Zealand

....11,000 for a super 14 franchise in the CAPITAL of the country and they get owned 2 weeks running by the wendyball lot.

That's a little better...

so union is dead in australia, and on its way to a similar fate in NZ.

global sport my a&&e

owned

You just cant compare football to anything as its way more popular than any sport.!

Look as i say before i like both codes of rugby.

BUT

Union is way more popular across the globe played in more countries, more players and supporters. Ok you might get more fans in Oz but that becuase of its popularity its like baseball properly more fans of that in china and america than anywhere else in the world yet who gives a dam else where same with Ice Hockey in Amercia and canada.?

You cant compare what Jonathan Davies said etc as he came from an amteur back round in Union its totally different now i would say union players are more professional and expereinced these days as they play in so many different competitions and teams and tour lots of different countries.

You say union players never make it yet all the players from the late 80s early 90s from wales where good players, ellis, davies, quinell, gibbs, bateman, devereux etc

Yet RL converts have rarely done well but the exception of Robinson and Tuqri, harris did ok in flashes but was way to inconsistent and seemed to go missing in games(very strange as you seem to think RL players where fitter and more alert etc)

I like both sports but to say union players wont make it in SL is way off mark expecially the talented welsh and irish backs. As to be honest there aint many decent british backs in SL are there.... look at the wingers.... there aint much quality about is there.?

Im a beleiver that there are nataural gifted, good, average and poor players in both codes of rugby. And i see no reason why a talented back in Union cant do well in RL as the fact is RL is a far simpler game to. Where in Union there are far more things to think about and this is where the RL converts to union struggle with the technical side of things.

Quote ="eels fan"The biggest Rugby comp on Earth. The comp that gets over 3 million paying spectators a year (more than the two biggest union comps on Earth combined) The comp that get over 128 million TV viewers in Australian Capitals only each year The comp that sells over $100 million worth of merchandise a year The comp that gets paid over double a year what any union comp gets. Do you need any more? Quite funny actually, the NRL in Australia alone gets more people watching Friday night footy than the S14 gets in Aus, NZ and South Africa combined Need any proof on that last one mate?'" www.convictcreations.com/footbal ... stats.html this says ARL is top then S14 then NRL...haha. Why have a go anyway.? If you wont to go down that route compare World Cups.? I dont i havent giot a chip on my shoulder against League there is no need i enjoy both. its like union trying to take on soccer it aint gonna happen whats the point in stressing about it ... just enjoy sport.!

Quote ="eels fan"The biggest Rugby comp on Earth. The comp that gets over 3 million paying spectators a year (more than the two biggest union comps on Earth combined) The comp that get over 128 million TV viewers in Australian Capitals only each year The comp that sells over $100 million worth of merchandise a year The comp that gets paid over double a year what any union comp gets. Do you need any more? Quite funny actually, the NRL in Australia alone gets more people watching Friday night footy than the S14 gets in Aus, NZ and South Africa combined Need any proof on that last one mate?'" www.convictcreations.com/footbal ... stats.html this says ARL is top then S14 then NRL...haha. Why have a go anyway.? If you wont to go down that route compare World Cups.? I dont i havent giot a chip on my shoulder against League there is no need i enjoy both. its like union trying to take on soccer it aint gonna happen whats the point in stressing about it ... just enjoy sport.!

That doesnt mean anything.?
Do you know what games Phoenix have been playing in.?
They are playoff games.!

Wellington Hurricanes themselves will get over 30000 in a semi final play off game easy.

I checked Wellington Phoenix first 2 homes games they had 9k and 10k.

So its utter rubbish.!

Let me guess...

Peter Fitzsimons?

Yet another two coder. Get a new song sheet to sing from, loser.

This is about Rugby is it not?

So what has boggerball got to do with it?

And if you must know, the NRL gets more people watching the game on TV out here than the boggerball.

And lastly, Convict creations is a union site, run by halfwits that post anything they hear in a pub conversation as fact.

so now apparently not only have you heard of the nrl you know lots about australian sports

jeeze you are making a goose of yourself

And to prove convict creations is a Union site, have a look at how many countries it has down that play RL..

5, yet a massive 5 countries play RL according to convict creations.

Have a look at the playing numbers, it has Union almost on par with RL in Australia.

FFS, it has AFL being played in 2 countries.

It's a piece of $$$$ site.

so A League soccer and S14 RU get similar crowds in wellington eh?

so much for union being the dominant sport in nz then!




11,000 are terrible crowds for S14.

they are down massively

Sounds like a real beauty.



Spiro Zavos and his little boy contribute?

He never mentioned those billions of ratings Union gets world wide



I wonder if he looked at my post with the SANZAR figures

Is that you Zac

WOW just WOW... you RL lot got a massive chip on your shoulder.

You brought up Soccer i never mentioned it.?

You have to compare like for like otherwise yuo havent a valued argument.?

and i found a piece of fact on net that doesnt back up what you say thats all.

No sport can compete with soccer its world dominant unfortunatly.

You can say that about crowds at leeds(when in top flight) footy compared to rhinos. salford to Man U or man city. liverpool to wire/saints, urs/nal/west ham/reading to quins. you can do the same to all union compared to soccer you just cant compete.

i have googled NRL i thought this was a british site i thought you was on about Northern rail.

I havent a problem with either sport i lkie backing all my teams in sport whether bridgend/ospreys in union,cru/wire in RL, cardiff/ man u in soccer, dolphins in american footy, glamorgan in ciricket.

I have no chip would so ever.

You lot on the other hand well...

Isnt that the only team they have in A League though.?

How many S14 sides in NZ.?

You have to compare like for like mate or no valid argument.

There are 5 S14 teams who all average over 10000.

Umm, isn't this a RL site?

If so, what are you doing here arguing about RL then?

Wouldn't it be you that has the chip seeing as you've gone out of your way to find something to argue about?



Show me, show me where I mentioned or brought up the sokka please.



I did, I showed you that Union in Australia can't compete with RL, infact, I showed you that Union in NZ, Aus and south Africa is smaller than RL in Australia by itself.



You found no facts what so ever, every part of that site is bull and it's dated from as far back as 2005-06





What's sokka got to do with this, we are talking Rugby, just because you haven't got a leg to stand on doesn't mean you can move the goal posts to suit your agenda.



Again, sokka has nothing to do with what I'm talking about, how about you start putting in the Rugby figures for each code then in those places you mentioned.



You know exactly what you are doing, because if you googled NRL, there is no way in the world Convict Creations would've come up first without you searching speciffically for it or going through at least 30 google pages for it to come up eventually.

Why?

If we were talking about the Warriors, you'd put them up against the 5 s14 clubs wouldn't you?

Any chance of discussing the thread topic?

I actually think the Thomas signing will be a very good move.

The Crusaders certainly know how to promote their club. Two good crowds for their first home game but Catalans at home in a televised clash would be their lowest crowd of the season. Unveil RU's leading Welsh cap Gareth Thomas at half time and presumably a sizable number will be added to the attendance.

Hopefully he can play a couple of games on loan at the Scorpions before his Crusaders debut allowing them to pull in a couple of big crowds and promoting South Wales RL as well as North Wales RL.

Then get him in the schools and promoting the game to all the youngsters in the Crusaders' catchment.

On the pitch I don't see an issue with him being 35. He's clearly still very fit, playing regularly for the Blues (17 of 22 games) and will be a very solid RL player. As long as expectations on the pitch are realistic (he's not going to be running hat tricks in every week) then I can't see the signing being anything other than a success.

Then the groundwork will have been done and he and the Crusaders will have shown that people can make the transition work. I see Noble has already cheekily started the groundwork with another Blue, Andy Powell.

Crusaders have called a press conference for tomorrow lunchtime.

This is just a load of crap, perpetuated by your average league fan. The backs in the guiness premiership poo all over the super duper league backs from a massive height. They are faster, stronger and far more skillful, because you see, league is going backwards. The game is just like a huge game of british bulldog where the fittest survive.

Gareth Thomas will tear it up in SL, even at the age of 36 and will be even more embarassment for our game

RU winger touches the ball once a game

please, lets not talk about any backs in union like they have any skill

FFS andy farell at 33 with crocked knees managed to play outside centre for england RU team, thats how s**t and slow they are

and the union players freaked at his passing skills as well

The backs in English union are better athletes than the league guys. They get the first pick and a much bigger pool. They do ruin them though and a nice stint in league would sort them out