random for those that are mentally challenged.

why should a club provide reserves for a period which is longer than the 3 year franchise period?

why not just have them provide a 3 year reserve instead, and with the money saved they can fund leigh for 3 years?

typical flat cap moronic reply.

always seeing it in simple black and white terms

SL has enough heartland clubs in it, especially from small places. it doesnt need more of these clubs. the only way they should be allowed into SL is at the place of another small town heartland club which has failed

if SL expands the number of teams from now, it should do it with expansion teams that could actually grow the sport a lot 10, 20 years down the track

the only thing destroying SL is poor heartland clubs with hopeless crowds and poor stadia. to show how poor these clubs are, Les Cats have done more in 3 years than these guys have in decades

PSG was a poorly set up club and got very good crowds.

indeed, much better crowds than leigh, a club with a new stadium and supposedly a heartland club

other than widnes, is there any other heartland non SL club that could actually add to SL

yeah, notice the flat cap in the picture as well.

i like to fit in with the myriad other bitter old men who support non SL clubs

my god all the sydney teams combined get less than 10% of the population of the city each week, obviously they are failing and need to be kicked out of the nrl.

leeds utd also average more than a number of nrl teams (i would even hazard a guess its more than most nrl teams average despite the greater popularity of the sport over there).

Oh by the way welsey has some points for you to address if you would be so kind?

dally messenger truly is an incredibly pitiful and sad individual to spend his whole life trolling RL fans bleating on about how much he thinks he knows about what is good for the game and continually demonstrating a complete lack of fundamental knowledge of anything whatsoever.

Step away from the keyboard and get yourself a life.

You bitter cloth capper

Rather that than a 'flamin' gallah'.....

every week 1 million people from sydney watch the friday night game, 800,000 watch the sunday game, and on Pay TV you get another 100,000 from sydney watching EACH of the games shown on there (6 games).

the thing about being a RL fan is you either have to go to games or watch it on TV.

or perhaps your idea of a RL fan is the cardboard cutouts of people they used at Wakey for this Sporting Life?

my first guess was leigh fan, widnes was my 2nd

Yes we understand that more people like RL in Australia than over here , nobody has suggested anything different , but what exactly is your point ?

well a fellow fan of a small town RL club is arguing against that.

perhaps when you have the next meeting of the Bitter Old Mans club you can update him

What are you going on about ? , what point are you actually making about anything , because quite simply we havent a clue what you are trying to tell us

Why are you still feeding him?

i had breakfast 2 hours ago thanks.

anyway im off to the gym.

its a bright sunny day here in old sydney town.

ta da

And that's because you only have the ability judge a person's character based on the colours they wear.

Shallow as well as a flamin' gallah.. There's not much going for you sport.

Excellent, but a waste of time because he'll ignore you.
Unless you don't really have a point or support a club either outisde of Super League or from a small town (or both), he won't reply because he has no reply.

The fact that he's still banging on about how football is so big in West Yorkshire (which no-one has denied) to help prove a point when 18 months ago he had a 10 page argument trying to tell us the exact opposite shows what a hypocritical fool he is.

Oh, and the fact that he's using Leeds United's crowds to show how RL doesn't have heartlands in that area is amazing. Remind me, what are Sydney Swans crowds like in comparison to any other Sydney RL team? Last time I checked, they averaged over 30k.

Oh, and I'm suprised no-one has told him that Wigan is in the Greater Manchester area: a club that attracts crowds in 5 figures.

So first this was a about population size, but you were losing the argument so you switched it to crowds averages, when you were made to look a fool on that topic you changed it to tv viewing figures to suit your argument

whatever next i wonder.

Oh and welsey would still like you to respond to him

Sydney's (in)ability to generate RL crowds [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=437362doesn't seem to impress the ARL much[/url

That's not an argument, try again


Why should geographical location matter if a team is well enough supported?


There's been pro RL for nearly 30 years and they still get by far the lowest SL crowds so it's a lie that crowds in a big place will grow in 10-20 years time, they if anything dorp off over time. Also how will they pay the wages for those 10-20 years of tiny crowds?


Crusaders are far worse than any other team, and only them and Harlequins have truly tiny crowds most heartland clubs have at least double their crowds. Catalans have done well but they were a success before they joined, they weren't let in as a charity like Crusaders were

no you are right then, count leeds as RL territory even though the soccer teams gets more people watching.

all the RL fans are in the pub

when i find people are insensitive to logic i tend to lose interest in their replies.

your nonsensical response to the facts i rasied re widnes and bradford are what im on about

if paris fails its because RL will never work there

if widnes or bradford fail, youll explain that away in silly terms.

hence your credibility is shot

and of course RL also failed in wigan and leeds so therefore they shouldnt be in SL now either