What about the 2nd half?

Yeah that and France v Australia the week after are on the BBC.

Very fair summary.

We will probably not bother coming out for the second half

England still to finish scoreless though

My thoughts too - not bad attempt at wit for you for once

I thought Graham and Burgess were the stand outs. Burgess, especially in the first half, was very good. Graham just didn't stop taking the ball up. I would have probably given Burgess MOM, but Graham wasn't far behind.

I hope they give us the option to declare next week.

We were always going to ourperform them in the second half and the in-game betting was England -4 so thanks very much for getting my money back from last week.

We are not good enough to have seperate national teams although I understand the reasoning behind it. However, the Aussies will put over 40 past us next week.

Basically it was Catalan against a composite SL side which included too many poor players. Aus and NZ will decimate us, this is a building phase for 2013, nothing else.

who from the Welsh, Scottish or Irish squads would have strengthened tonight's team?

Pat Richards!

I don't think he'll qualify english though.

He'll qualify British (Irish) though.

Graham thinks he's a half back, he should stop pussying out of the big hits and drive it in

Blanch and probably Brough. Mc Guire was not great tonight and he has never really done it against Australia or NZ either.

That has to get a bite from somewhere

against all your family hairlooms (Ball n chain) way back to king george the 3rds reign as our monarch .

now stand and sing god save our queen you rather confused individual

So why pick Lee Smith? And indeed players as old as Mozza and Peacock

How much did you lose?

Just watched the game again.

Tackle is complete grounded though when the ball or the hand or arm carrying the ball contacts with the ground and he's held by 1 or more opposing players (Greenshields arms are on his shoulders), there's no clause to maintain contact at all - and it can't be given as a broken tackle either unless the opposition player lost contact with the player before contact with the ground was made.

You can give it if you feel that the player was 'sliding', at which point the tackle is only complete once the slide ends. It then comes down to whether that particular ref feels a slide needs suitable forward momentum to class as a slide, a majority sideways roll may or may not be classed as a slide

Tbh i'm pleased the ref gave it, but there are times where it isn't given and the tackle is given complete when the ground contact is made

Nothing, but thanks for your concern.

Which is a load of tosh IMO, you should go into each and every tournament with the best side to do the job, we shouldn't be picking players because they might be able to do the job in 4 years time.

Ive not seen the game yet so Il reserve proper judgement till then but I don't think changing the team drastically is going to do us any favours, we should stick with the same players in the main positions as continuity could and should help their games.

Agreed, it's a load of rubbish how he wants to predict the team 4 years from now.

Look at the 2005 team..

Great Britain: Wellens, Carney, Gleeson, Senior, Pryce; I Harris, Deacon, Fielden, Cunningham, A Morley, Johnson, Peacock, Sinfield
Subs: Higham, Thackray, Gilmour, Walker

3 of that team are in the squad this year. Australia have 2 that played in 2005 and are playing this year.

He took loads of ball up yesterday. I have been very critical over the season because he passes too much, it works every so often, and it very nearly come off a few times last night, but when he does it too much it becomes predictable. He didn't do that last night, he worked hard and took a lot of ball up.

Thought Graham had a fantastic second half. Real quality front row play (which funnily enough isn't just about smashing the ball up).

you would have to say that a lot of that team is better than the team we put out last night