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Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Some people will never take the time to understand the reality. They sit back in their soccer club or council funded stadium and demand to know why everyone else hasn't done the same.'"
Indeed.
Planning was granted in 2012 but, it seems that we needed to wait for the former Leader of WMDC to move on before any proper support and action was properly permitted.
At least there is a date for the bulldozers to move in and hopefully, everyone will see the benefit:
https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2022 ... agreement/
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Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Some people will never take the time to understand the reality. They sit back in their soccer club or council funded stadium and demand to know why everyone else hasn't done the same.'"
Indeed.
Planning was granted in 2012 but, it seems that we needed to wait for the former Leader of WMDC to move on before any proper support and action was properly permitted.
At least there is a date for the bulldozers to move in and hopefully, everyone will see the benefit:
https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2022 ... agreement/
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| Pros and cons in everything but i think R.L. teams that share with football clubs (or even with a Rugby Union club, in Salford's case)have a major disadvantage because the 'major' entity (it seems) takes over to the detriment of the Rugby League team. Wigan and Huddersfield i believe are both now minor partners in their joint stadiums (despite in Wigan's case) being the more popular sport there and Hull FC facing enormous financial problems (and tenure difficulties) because Hull City have ownership of the SMC and call all the shots. Quite ironic really as it was Adam Pearson in his previous role at the Hull City who negotiated the terms and conditions with Hull FC that he is now complaining about.
A big advantage to R.L. teams who own their grounds is the advantage to generate many different income streams, which means the grounds can be used for other events 12 months of the year rather than just on match days once a fortnight during the season.
I do think some teams both inside and outside of Super League will be 'cutting their cloth'; accordingly just in order to survive never mind prosper.
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| Quote ="jools"the fact you say if not when says it all.
you are only where you are because you lied as a club. other clubs who have done as asked paid the price. Its not about snobbery its about decency, and the fans of other clubs are quite right to feel aggrieved. When a trip to barrow was a much more pleasant experience regardless of how new the stadium is you should be embarrassed.'"
And you are only here because your club lied about the fake merger with Sheffield Eagles. Some people have very short selective memories.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Oh dear, please try and keep up.
Do you think it was Trinity trying to delay things or would you think that the local authority had something to do with it
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She knows she's just bitter and twisted, thing is when Ken steps aside it will be the demize of Shudderfield midgets when Town will kick them out of the stadium they will be playing in a cow field where that stupid bell ought to be
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| Interesting debate.... I speak as a long time trinity fan who has lived in Australia for nearly 15 years...
Previous regimes at Trinity have been pretty well meaning, but have lacked the acumen and tenacity to really take the club and the reputation of the club forward. This was the case during the latter stages of the Members club and the first part of the full time professional period. That changed by accident when Michael Carter took over... since then he eliminated debt and has run the club against its income, the community Foundation and the Academies are amongst the best in the country, the sponsorship and commercial activity has grown exponentially, the board has grown and the chair is an experienced (big 4 consultancy) executive who has led the club to buying the ground and surrounding areas and put in place guaranteed funding for the redevelopment of the ground to commence in July... but the reality is that this could have only happened and can only happen with a supportive local council... and that paradigm changed when the previous leader vacated his role a couple of years ago, and a former chair/ advisor was revealed as a self-serving actor and his influence removed.
you can't change the past and the future is unknown... the only moment of power is now... and no one can criticise the Wakefield Trinity club for what they are doing... now!
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Oh dear, please try and keep up.
Do you think it was Trinity trying to delay things or would you think that the local authority had something to do with it
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yes of course - because you had the opportunity to have a stadium with cas and refused. the stadium would have been a reality now, and look how that ended up!
trying to blame the council for your own inability to accept the truth is laughable. now you will just end up with a lick of paint on the dump you already have........ maybe.......
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"And you are only here because your club lied about the fake merger with Sheffield Eagles. Some people have very short selective memories.'"
you mean the merger we were forced into by the RFL? funny how hull never get the same stuff levelled at them though.
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| Quote ="snowie"She knows she's just bitter and twisted, thing is when Ken steps aside it will be the demize of Shudderfield midgets when Town will kick them out of the stadium they will be playing in a cow field where that stupid bell ought to be'"
you don't really know much at all about how Huddersfield Giants is run do you? The Davy legacy will continue long after Ken is gone.
or how the stadium agreement works - we have plenty of years left on the 100 year lease thanks. Likely the stadium wont still be standing - yours definitely wont be - and likely you still wont have a new one.........
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| Quote ="jools"yes of course - because you had the opportunity to have a stadium with cas and refused. the stadium would have been a reality now, and look how that ended up!
trying to blame the council for your own inability to accept the truth is laughable. now you will just end up with a lick of paint on the dump you already have........ maybe.......'"
I remember the ground share option at the time and thought it was a reasonable solution for both parties.
Correct me if I am wrong but was it not backed by the local authorities and the problem was agreeing to its boundary location.
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| Shame we don’t have a football team to scrounge off
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| Quote ="jools"yes of course - because you had the opportunity to have a stadium with cas and refused. the stadium would have been a reality now, and look how that ended up!
trying to blame the council for your own inability to accept the truth is laughable. now you will just end up with a lick of paint on the dump you already have........ maybe.......'"
Absolute nonsense. Again, do try and keep up.
You'll be telling us next that if we'd become "Calder", everything would be tickety boo.
Mergers never quite turn out as they are expected to do either, do they.
Where would our mystical shared ground have been built ?
Also, Cas were given the option to groundshare at Newmarket Lane but, they (quite rightly) refused.
Any shared ground would have had to be on neutral territory and this option was NEVER more than a pipe dream, a bit like HuddSheff playing some of their fixtures in Sheffield.
Remind me how many games did they play down there
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| Huddersfield took over, sorry merged with another team purely to avoid relegation
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Absolute nonsense. Again, do try and keep up.
You'll be telling us next that if we'd become "Calder", everything would be tickety boo.
Mergers never quite turn out as they are expected to do either, do they.
Where would our mystical shared ground have been built ?
Also, Cas were given the option to groundshare at Newmarket Lane but, they (quite rightly) refused.
Any shared ground would have had to be on neutral territory and this option was NEVER more than a pipe dream, a bit like HuddSheff playing some of their fixtures in Sheffield.
Remind me how many games did they play down there
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You are clearly from the Boris Johnson school of telling the truth. Just lie and pretend it’s the truth.
It was Wakey who originally turned down the ground share option. They then changed their mind later. Cas we’re on their way with stadium plans and at that point things would have gone ahead. You clearly preferred administration.
Your original stadium plan was quite rightly turned down because you wanted to build it on green belt land - if that was a housing development no doubt you would have been praising the council for preventing it!
No one was talking about merging the two clubs only sharing a stadium.
You had a brilliant opportunity to have something unique, a real rugby league hub in West Yorkshire. Sharing costs for resources would have saved you money-and brought in more sponsorship. Some poor business decisions made based on pride. perhaps you’d have a bit more to spend where it matters.
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| Quote ="jools"You are clearly from the Boris Johnson school of telling the truth. Just lie and pretend it’s the truth.
It was Wakey who originally turned down the ground share option. They then changed their mind later. Cas we’re on their way with stadium plans and at that point things would have gone ahead. You clearly preferred administration.
Your original stadium plan was quite rightly turned down because you wanted to build it on green belt land - if that was a housing development no doubt you would have been praising the council for preventing it!
No one was talking about merging the two clubs only sharing a stadium.
You had a brilliant opportunity to have something unique, a real rugby league hub in West Yorkshire. Sharing costs for resources would have saved you money-and brought in more sponsorship. Some poor business decisions made based on pride. perhaps you’d have a bit more to spend where it matters.'"
put your rolling pin down flo pointless even trying to correct your comments as the village idiot you are as you've just added together bits and pieces to make your own story line up, your hatred of Wakefield just shows through your constant bile that spews out of your mouth, chuff me your one sad person
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| Quote ="jools"You are clearly from the Boris Johnson school of telling the truth. Just lie and pretend it’s the truth.
It was Wakey who originally turned down the ground share option. They then changed their mind later. Cas we’re on their way with stadium plans and at that point things would have gone ahead. You clearly preferred administration.
Your original stadium plan was quite rightly turned down because you wanted to build it on green belt land - if that was a housing development no doubt you would have been praising the council for preventing it!
No one was talking about merging the two clubs only sharing a stadium.
You had a brilliant opportunity to have something unique, a real rugby league hub in West Yorkshire. Sharing costs for resources would have saved you money-and brought in more sponsorship. Some poor business decisions made based on pride. perhaps you’d have a bit more to spend where it matters.'"
Unfortunately your blind hatred for Wakefield Trinity negates anything you have to say, however inaccurate.
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| Quote ="jools"You are clearly from the Boris Johnson school of telling the truth. Just lie and pretend it’s the truth.
It was Wakey who originally turned down the ground share option. They then changed their mind later. Cas we’re on their way with stadium plans and at that point things would have gone ahead. You clearly preferred administration.
Your original stadium plan was quite rightly turned down because you wanted to build it on green belt land - if that was a housing development no doubt you would have been praising the council for preventing it!
No one was talking about merging the two clubs only sharing a stadium.
You had a brilliant opportunity to have something unique, a real rugby league hub in West Yorkshire. Sharing costs for resources would have saved you money-and brought in more sponsorship. Some poor business decisions made based on pride. perhaps you’d have a bit more to spend where it matters.'"
0/10 see me after school
Go back and check you "facts" with what actually happened and perhaps try again. Columbo, you most certainly are not.
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| Quote ="Willzay"
I’d shudder to think what Hudds would when Town want to kick them out.'"
and wakey fans resorting to type with the personal attacks
every single one of you not actually addressing anything I said but the vast majority calling me names, and making personal attacks, sums up the club really.
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| Quote ="jools"and wakey fans resorting to type with the personal attacks
every single one of you not actually addressing anything I said but the vast majority calling me names, and making personal attacks, sums up the club really.'"
Perhaps you could post a link to the alleged groundshare that you say Trinity turned down ?
Also, if you dont want people to have a pop at you, perhaps you should do some research before posting false information.
Clearly, your original post was designed to have a go at Trinity but, now you complain when Trinity fans have a go back at you, for posting nonsense, in an attempt
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Sorry bud, but, you really do need to try harder.
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Quote ="wrencat1873"Perhaps you could post a link to the alleged groundshare that you say Trinity turned down ?
Also, if you dont want people to have a pop at you, perhaps you should do some research before posting false information.
Clearly, your original post was designed to have a go at Trinity but, now you complain when Trinity fans have a go back at you, for posting nonsense, in an attempt
to score some points.
Sorry bud, but, you really do need to try harder.'"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... e-10756978
are you seriously trying to take some kind of moral high ground here? I've had a go at the decisions made by the club, and your terrible facilities, what I have not done is made personal comments or called anyone names.
have a go at my club and fans in general if you must but but I've been called a hag, an idiot, a sad person, and the rest - not to mention the general misogyny on show. Think its you that must try harder. This is the kind of thing seen on the terraces we are trying to get rid of. You must be so proud.
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Also, if you dont want people to have a pop at you, perhaps you should do some research before posting false information.
Clearly, your original post was designed to have a go at Trinity but, now you complain when Trinity fans have a go back at you, for posting nonsense, in an attempt
to score some points.
Sorry bud, but, you really do need to try harder.'"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... e-10756978
are you seriously trying to take some kind of moral high ground here? I've had a go at the decisions made by the club, and your terrible facilities, what I have not done is made personal comments or called anyone names.
have a go at my club and fans in general if you must but but I've been called a hag, an idiot, a sad person, and the rest - not to mention the general misogyny on show. Think its you that must try harder. This is the kind of thing seen on the terraces we are trying to get rid of. You must be so proud.
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are you seriously trying to take some kind of moral high ground here? I've had a go at the decisions made by the club, and your terrible facilities, what I have not done is made personal comments or called anyone names.
have a go at my club and fans in general if you must but but [uI've been called a hag, an idiot, a sad person, and the rest [/u- not to mention the general misogyny on show. Think its you that must try harder. This is the kind of thing seen on the terraces we are trying to get rid of. You must be so proud.
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Maybe because we have yet to see evidence to the contrary? You’re a very bitter individual.
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are you seriously trying to take some kind of moral high ground here? I've had a go at the decisions made by the club, and your terrible facilities, what I have not done is made personal comments or called anyone names.
have a go at my club and fans in general if you must but but I've been called a hag, an idiot, a sad person, and the rest - not to mention the general misogyny on show. Think its you that must try harder. This is the kind of thing seen on the terraces we are trying to get rid of. You must be so proud.
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Again, what do you expect, "a free hit" ??
The article you linked to was merely a suggestion of a shared facility.
No mention of where it would be or how it would be funded ??
Neither Car or Wakefield were willing to share a ground in their opponents back yard and I'm 100% behind that.
Would you groundshare at Halifax or Bradford ?
Hence he comment about "must try harder".
You really should have looked a bit deeper into this before passing your comments.
It's not as though the "proposed" shared ground was ever more than an idea, thrown in by the local council.
Perhaps you could mention the pie in the sky article, the idea that WMDC would build Trinity a new stadium, whether Trinity chose to use it or not - that one was a beauty
This was another baseless piece of political poop but, there's been a hell of a lot of that since 2012
As for moral high ground ? not in the slightest.
It seems ridiculous that an ill informed fan of another club should try to tell people what Trinity could or could not have done, when they aren't too clear on the full facts.
Especially when the club they support has "stolen" a place from one of their rivals by some kind of "merger".
Perhaps, with hindsight, you shouldn't have poked the hornets nest
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| Are Wakey fans being lectured to about their club by a fan of a club which:
Murdered another, successful and important club to avoid relegation
Was gifted a share in a new, primarily soccer, stadium which they could never have afforded any other way
Lose millions of pounds year after year but are fortunate to be underwritten by a very rich man
A bit of humility, empathy or even self-awareness would be in order you'd think.
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