Yes I could accept that... from a logic point of view.

There's a lot of water to go under the bridge before next season in their case with all the issues they have at the moment, maybe it would solve some problems for the RFL if they did stay up, one thing for sure though if they don't what criteria do you use to select a club to go up, without showing any favouritism to a particular club.

Isn't it just as logical that the team they replaced (London)take their place as well.

or play 2021 as an 11 team SL and whoever comes 1st and 2nd in the Championship comes up. Or, if the RFL really wanted to get some big positive press, have a big event, 1st go up as of right, 2nd and 3rd play for promotion, bottom 2 of SL play to avoid relegation, double header at Cardiff (Covid permitting)...

There is no way that the Rfl will pick a club from the Championship without causing uproar from whoever didn't get chosen.

Either Toronto stay up or an 11 team super league.

However an 11 team super league would decrease the broadcast deal because of the reduced game per round.

Therefore I think Toronto will stay in super league but start on negative points.

Me too

Out of interest, where did you find out what Gary thinks or is calling for?

You've been reeled in yet again Wayne. TWP are disposing of their whole SL squad at this very moment. The question about then carrying on is about them carrying on in the championship or league, whichever one they get demoted to as a punishment for not completing this season.

He got you!!

not answering the question, again?

TWP weren't an expansion team my friend. Even Perez defined expansion as new player pools and more TV deals. Neither happened.

Which is probably a small part of the reason they gave up.

London is the "fair" choice as they were the ones kicked out for an incapable guest club. I would go for them all day.....

Toulouse don't run a player development system. Read the criteria

Well if we are in joke mood I would go for Ottawa.







But your right that Leigh do not have the "player production" but they could sign up a reserves side.

This was what Lenegan asked of certain clubs who may harbour SL ambitions when it came to the new deal 2022. He wanted to see them run reserves and that included Bradford, Widnes, London and Newcastle. They all responded. I'd say it's logical that Superleague will be looking for a club not to fill in, but be full participants longer term so I'd put London favourites then Widnes...Bradford and Newcastle may have some way to go yet.

If SL would accept Leigh if they signed up a reserves side there's a chance.

Where do you get this fanciful idea that Lenegan makes the rules for SL entry?

I don't know why you bother, he'll never answer.

Reeled in by who exactly? If you hadn't dissected my post to suit your agenda you don't have anything to come back with, what I said which you well know is, that perhaps it might be better and less troublesome for the RFL if they came back in super league thus avoiding championship clubs falling out amongst themselves as to who got first dibs, which in all fairness to the RFL would be virtually impossible to decide without showing favouritism. Twp as you say are disposing of their whole super league squad, it doesn't take an email to you from Lenagan to tell you that as it's well documented in the press, unfortunately for you that MIGHT not stop them recruiting for next season with encouragement from the RFL, which I understand your point of view as it will leave you devoid of any reasonable excuse to pour out your usual diatribe of anti expansionism. So presumably you have heard first hand from Lenagan and I say this because you talk about him as though you are in day to day conversation with him that it's definite Twp will be demoted to the championship or league 1, as per I think your just blagging your way through as lets face it your not sure which league they're going into, oh nearly forgot, who is it whose got me? certainly not you cock, toast eh, you'd be out of your depth in a car park puddle

true, I should just ignore the trolling twerp.

I'm sure that you can email them your criteria, they are sure to be really interested.
Do you have a link to the AGREED criteria or, are we going on press cuttings and you tube clips (again).

If the Championship isn't going to be played, which looks highly unlikely, there are 2 candidates.
Either Toulouse, who are top of the Championship at present or, Fev, who were beaten finalists last season.

Anything else would be open to all sorts of questions and possible legal issues from clubs that believe that they had been "overlooked".

Voting a club into the league, even by an "independent" panel looks fraught.

Mind you, this is rugby league and the silver bullet will be sought, again.

Toulouse run a team in Elite 1. That is effectively a Reserves side and development of players.

More than what some English teams do, especially when you consider dual reg.

As they say though, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Your words.

There's a fundamental difference when all someone posts is made up in their head, passed off as fact.

Let’s say Toronto keep their place for 2021. How are they going to field a team? Whose going to sign for them after what’s gone on?

Would GH be supportive of Fev in SL? It might prevent him from using them as Rhinos reserves.

I think you might find it works for both clubs.

Should clearly be Fev. They fit all that criteria.

:29oelobw

OK Wayne, here's the situation, Argyle is the sole owner of a club he pumped £18Million into.

With £18Million Wayne I would trust you and me would be equally capable of finding a ground, inventing a club (how about Mansfield

) and buying up players to get to Superleague. Once there though it would be a different situation

That's what Argyle has found out so he's out. He's going. As Martyn Sadler said today in his Total RL Express & Rugby Leaguer :29oelobw[i:29oelobw"It seems unlikely that Argyle will be the owner of the woolpack for much longer"[/i:29oelobw:29oelobw

So if he's not there who is going to :29oelobw"Recruit for next season with encouragement from the RFL":29oelobw

Your mistake is to refer to TWP as a club which they are not. They are just a plaything the $Billionaire tossed aside once he got bored, and that my friend is NOT expansion...........

Expansion was clearly defined early on when Perez conceded to Dave Woods that expansion meant expanding the player pool, it meant expanding the TV revenues. TWP expanded nothing but travel costs.

:29oelobwAnd here's the bottom line, when the phoney TWP replaced the real club London Broncos Superleague contracted People completely forget if a so called expansion club doesn't expand the player base or the TV money once it gets into Superleague it only pushes a real club out.

This is why London must be given their SL place back.