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| For those saying a new coach should have been in place for the pre-season, any new coach will effectively be having a mini pre-season with the impending postponing of the season. Will give time to get players up to speed with new ideas
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"It has confused me for about 15 years that a club with the potential of Hull hasn't found a world class coach to properly cement them as potential champions. For me they are the only club in our country that could remotely aspire to 30k gates (not every week). Radford is a grafter and probably a great bloke, but him being head coach at Hull always baffled me.'"
It's pretty frustrating.
Kear 2005/06, promoted from an assistant - won the cup
Peter Sharp, assistant NRL coach, 2006-2008. great 06-07, awful start to 2008
Agar, promoted assistant, 2008-2011, awful
Gentle, NRL assistant, 2012-2013, underwhelming despite a cup final
Radford, promoted assistant, 2014 - unforgettable cup wins, but a lot of frustrating underachievement
Each one of those has been a gamble. For a change I'd like us to go and recruit that proven world class coach, but I fear that Last/Purtill will string a run of games together and one gets the role fulltime - that seems to be the Hull way.
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| Quote ="DGM"It's pretty frustrating.
Kear 2005/06, promoted from an assistant - won the cup
Peter Sharp, assistant NRL coach, 2006-2008. great 06-07, awful start to 2008
Agar, promoted assistant, 2008-2011, awful
Gentle, NRL assistant, 2012-2013, underwhelming despite a cup final
Radford, promoted assistant, 2014 - unforgettable cup wins, but a lot of frustrating underachievement
Each one of those has been a gamble. For a change I'd like us to go and recruit that proven world class coach, but I fear that Last/Purtill will string a run of games together and one gets the role fulltime - that seems to be the Hull way.'"
You could do with Tony Smith from your beloved neighbours.
He' turned both Leeds and Wire into winning sides and he could do the same with FC.
Of all the current SL coaches, he would be as good as it gets. Maybe even Shaun Wane, to run alongside his international responsibilities.
With FC having such a strong physical side, he would have you playing hard and winning silverware.
Outside that, you may end up with a current Aussie assistant but, if they are successful, invariably, they tend to look for a head coach position back home.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You could do with Tony Smith from your beloved neighbours.
He' turned both Leeds and Wire into winning sides and he could do the same with FC.
Of all the current SL coaches, he would be as good as it gets. Maybe even Shaun Wane, to run alongside his international responsibilities.
With FC having such a strong physical side, he would have you playing hard and winning silverware.
Outside that, you may end up with a current Aussie assistant but, if they are successful, invariably, they tend to look for a head coach position back home.'"
If we're to bring in someone external, the likelihood is it'll be an NRL assistant I think, but it's still a bit of a gamble. As someone on the Hull forum barked at me, "what about McGuire, Robinson or Holbrook", yeh, true, but for each one of them there's at least one David Furner.
The next coach is critical for the club. There's been some heavy investment into the playing squad this year and we need the right man to capitalise on it.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"It has confused me for about 15 years that a club with the potential of Hull hasn't found a world class coach to properly cement them as potential champions. For me they are the only club in our country that could remotely aspire to 30k gates (not every week). Radford is a grafter and probably a great bloke, but him being head coach at Hull always baffled me.'"
If Leeds by far and away the best-supported team in SL can't manage 30k I see no possible chance that HUll could, possibly one of the most OTT comments I've ever seen on here and that's saying something! I get your point in that they are definitely one of the most viable teams in SL but 30k! Other than against an on-form HKR or at a pinch playoff game against say, Leeds, not a chance IMO.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"If Leeds by far and away the best-supported team in SL can't manage 30k I see no possible chance that HUll could, possibly one of the most OTT comments I've ever seen on here and that's saying something! I get your point in that they are definitely one of the most viable teams in SL but 30k! Other than against an on-form HKR or at a pinch playoff game against say, Leeds, not a chance IMO.'"
KCOM holds 25k, so we'd struggle hitting 30k, but rather than focusing on that, I think his point was more that Hull as a club have been chronic underachievers for years, and can a top coach be the catalyst to waking up a sleeping giant and the club can reach it's full potential.
Calling Hull a sleeping giant might be a bit much, certainly it's a club not fully conscious.
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| It actually aounded to me like Radford was more than ready to walk after that display. As if that was the straw that broke his back. Pearson said something to the effect of "Lee doesn't suffer fools lightly" and that gave the impression that after that tripe served up by his side he was personally done with the job and probably told Pearson afterward that he was off.
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| Quote ="IR80"no, he didn't, but hey ho.'"
Yes he did. That’s exactly what he said.
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| Quote ="Him"Yes he did. That’s exactly what he said.'"
Out of interest, why do you care, it has nothing to do with you.
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| Radford, Watson swap?
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Radford, Watson swap?'"
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| Radford's been past his sell by date at hull for about 2 seasons. Right decision, wrong way of doing it. They should have parted company at the end of last season, then used the pre-season to rebuild abit. They have a talented squad but there's a soft side and chronic inconsistency, those problems aren't quick fixes as they're cultural, that's the problem. If your squad lacks specific attributes like size, pace or creativity etc you can sign a player to fill the hole, or spend time developing the players. But when the problem is something less tangible, it's a harder fix.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Radford, Watson swap?'"
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| Quote ="IR80"Out of interest, why do you care, it has nothing to do with you.'"
It has just as much to do with me as it does you.
Why are you so desperate to defend such a ridiculous action?
Do you now admit Pearson didn’t tell the players before going on tv to announce the sacking?
Or will you continue to insist black is white.
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It has just as much to do with me as it does you.
Why are you so desperate to defend such a ridiculous action?
Do you now admit Pearson didn’t tell the players before going on tv to announce the sacking?
Or will you continue to insist black is white.'"
You clearly haven't read the Yorkshire Post article and are not in posession of the facts, but crack on wittering about something that is not of your concern.
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It has just as much to do with me as it does you.
Why are you so desperate to defend such a ridiculous action?
Do you now admit Pearson didn’t tell the players before going on tv to announce the sacking?
Or will you continue to insist black is white.'"
You clearly haven't read the Yorkshire Post article and are not in posession of the facts, but crack on wittering about something that is not of your concern.
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| Some messages from the Hull FC players sum up the what was the issue at the club:
Scott Taylor
"Thanks for everything mate."
Marc Sneyd
"Wishing Rads all the best for the future. Good luck pal."
Josh Griffin
"Thanks for everything mate"
Connor Wynne
"thanks for the two years I’ve known you mate"
Meanwhile Adam Pearson states
""To me, the chemistry between Lee and the side wasn’t there... some relationships in there could have been better."
Looks like a bit of a clique with some coach favourites and some such as the new overseas players not impressed.
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| Sacking the coach live on TV. How utterly embarassing
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Some messages from the Hull FC players sum up the what was the issue at the club:
Scott Taylor
"Thanks for everything mate."
Marc Sneyd
"Wishing Rads all the best for the future. Good luck pal."
Josh Griffin
"Thanks for everything mate"
Connor Wynne
"thanks for the two years I’ve known you mate"
Meanwhile Adam Pearson states
""To me, the chemistry between Lee and the side wasn’t there... some relationships in there could have been better."
Looks like a bit of a clique with some coach favourites and some such as the new overseas players not impressed.'"
Clearly the players had stopped executing what Radford wanted them to do.
However players tweeting stuff like that is pretty much normal practice when a coach in sport gets sacked.
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"Sacking the coach live on TV. How utterly embarassing'"
Thought that he'd already sacked him before he was interviewed on TV.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Thought that he'd already sacked him before he was interviewed on TV.'"
he had, but Steph has never worried too much about letting facts get in the way.
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| As a Rovers fan I would be the last to back Hull on this but it’s pathetic for fans of other clubs to be calling it embarrassing, out of order etc.
I was listening to local radio and Pearson clearly stated that business around his and Radford’s parting was taken care of before anything was officially announced. He took care of the Sky cameras so as Radford didn’t have to face up to them. That’s it.
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he had, but Steph has never worried too much about letting facts get in the way.'"
Exactly the amount of people that either can’t listen and comprehend what has been said or even read and understand what was said by Pearson is astounding. No one was sacked on tv live or otherwise.
Both Pearson & Radford has agreed to part ways and Pearson let Lee inform the players and said he would do the media for him and also inform of the decision.
Announcing it straight away saved Radford from the barrage of stuff that would have been on social media as is the norm these days. Delaying the announcement would have just lead to a lot of speculation and abuse. Pearson and Radford have the respect of each other and that showed.
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| Quote ="moxi1"As a Rovers fan I would be the last to back Hull on this but it’s pathetic for fans of other clubs to be calling it embarrassing, out of order etc.
I was listening to local radio and Pearson clearly stated that business around his and Radford’s parting was taken care of before anything was officially announced. He took care of the Sky cameras so as Radford didn’t have to face up to them. That’s it.'"
Well said
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| Quote ="moxi1"As a Rovers fan I would be the last to back Hull on this but it’s pathetic for fans of other clubs to be calling it embarrassing, out of order etc.
I was listening to local radio and Pearson clearly stated that business around his and Radford’s parting was taken care of before anything was officially announced. He took care of the Sky cameras so as Radford didn’t have to face up to them. That’s it.'"
Did the players find out before the watching public?
I don't see how they could have done. Whether radford found out before the interview is irrelevant.
There was no good reason why Pearson couldn't have announced it Friday.
To me it looks like Pearson was trying to make it look like he was doing something about the clubs poor form and wanted maximum exposure doing so.
Even in football where sackings are far more prevelant you don't see events like this.
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