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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"To be fair, he sacked the most successful coach in the SL era, took over himself but appointed an assistant to act as head coach. Appointed a high cost replacement with a big reputation, then sacked him. The appointed the head of youth as an interim replacement, but appointed the interim full time dispute a poor record.
He has also oversaw the worst GB tour of a generation, is the Director of a failing super league brand and has just sacked the GB coach, who is also the England coach, during the period designated to prepare for a World Cup, for which he will probably have to sack the same guy and appoint a replacement, 12 months into a 4 year plan.
In summary, it’s not going well.'"
Can you explain how Sinfield sacked McDermott when he didn’t even work for Leeds at that time?
The rest of your post is about as accurate as your first point.
Director of a failing SL brand?
In summary, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about
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| Quote ="christopher"Can you explain how Sinfield sacked McDermott when he didn’t even work for Leeds at that time?
The rest of your post is about as accurate as your first point.
Director of a failing SL brand?
In summary, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about'"
Like many contributors to social media, makes you question whether the democratic vote is a good thing.
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| You’d be a bit annoyed to travel half way around the world, then not to be picked!
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| Quote ="christopher"Can you explain how Sinfield sacked McDermott when he didn’t even work for Leeds at that time?
The rest of your post is about as accurate as your first point.
Director of a failing SL brand?
In summary, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about'"
In summary, you're being the class bore on this one. Seriously man do you actually think Sinfield has actually done anything to deserve his current status! You can nitpick all you like but the guys is clearly out of his depth of the RL pitch that is clear to anyone except for you and your fellow fan club members. Where is the learning curve between the player to a top executive? I'll be damned if I can see it, all I see is a job for the boys.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"What has he done to warrant the positions he's currently occupying? He was a very good top level player. But we've seen so many times in professional sport that a quality player doesn't always make a quality coach or administrator. He's done nothing to warrant the positions he holds at Leeds and the RFL/England/GB and looks completely out of his depth in each of them.'"
Couldn't agree more. I bet Bennet loves taking instructions from someone who's coaching record is woeful and has yet to prove his worth in RL Management.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"In summary, you're being the class bore on this one. Seriously man do you actually think Sinfield has actually done anything to deserve his current status! You can nitpick all you like but the guys is clearly out of his depth of the RL pitch that is clear to anyone except for you and your fellow fan club members. Where is the learning curve between the player to a top executive? I'll be damned if I can see it, all I see is a job for the boys.
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Nitpicking? It was a load of nonsense.
In summary people write things on a forum when they don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
You may just see it as jobs for the boys however you don’t employ him or see what role he undertakes so you haven’t got a clue wherher he is out of his depth or not.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Couldn't agree more. I bet Bennet loves taking instructions from someone who's coaching record is woeful and has yet to prove his worth in RL Management.'"
Sinfields coaching record? He’s never been one so I don’t see how it’s’woeful’
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| Quote ="christopher"Sinfields coaching record? He’s never been one so I don’t see how it’s’woeful’'"
My apologies, I forgot that he completely skipped that rung on the ladder and went to Director of Rugby, although I thought that he did take on the role prior to Furner joining.
However, the point still stands on what the hell gives Sinfield the right to tell Someone like Bennet whether he is good enough for the GB/England job.
I know this is immaterial now, as Bennett is to finish after the game on Saturday but, for a player to go straight into upper management, with limited experience in coaching is pretty poor for all concerned, not least for Sinfield himself.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"My apologies, I forgot that he completely skipped that rung on the ladder and went to Director of Rugby, although I thought that he did take on the role prior to Furner joining.
However, the point still stands on what the hell gives Sinfield the right to tell Someone like Bennet whether he is good enough for the GB/England job.
I know this is immaterial now, as Bennett is to finish after the game on Saturday but, for a player to go straight into upper management, with limited experience in coaching is pretty poor for all concerned, not least for Sinfield himself.'"
Sinfield has a Bsc in Sports and Exercise Science and a Masters Degree in Sports Business Management, he didn't just go from playing with no qualifications into management. Being a coach is not a prerequisite to having a management job within sport, Karl Fitzpatrick is CEO of Warrington Wolves, John Wells is DOR at the Tigers, I'm really not sure what issue you have other than some dislike of Sinfield perhaps?
Is it ultimately Sinfields job to say who is the GB/England coach? that's a genuine question by the way.
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| A degree is evidence of study, research and knowledge used to create a thesis to evidence the three key elements of the degree. A degree is not about ability or capability of being able to do or a particular task. You can have a masters and still be poop at the actual job.
Sinifield was an exceptional player throughout his RL career.
game as yet he has not shown a natural flair for administration and management and it could be that he does not have coaching ambitions. I'd say as ambassador for the RL and sport a fine example his new career still to prove his worth.
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| Quote ="christopher"Sinfields coaching record? He’s never been one so I don’t see how it’s’woeful’'"
I thought he did some interim coaching between BM and Furner., I definitely remember him being on the touch line looking like he was gonna blow a fuse on a number of occasions.
Just looking it up, he coached 12 games in 2018.
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| Not sure what he did at that point was actually coaching, I do believe someone held his hand.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"I thought he did some interim coaching between BM and Furner., I definitely remember him being on the touch line looking like he was gonna blow a fuse on a number of occasions.
Just looking it up, he coached 12 games in 2018.'"
James Lowes was the interim Head Coach, Sinfield has only held the position as DOR at Leeds
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"I thought he did some interim coaching between BM and Furner., I definitely remember him being on the touch line looking like he was gonna blow a fuse on a number of occasions.
Just looking it up, he coached 12 games in 2018.'"
Where have you looked it up?
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| Quote ="christopher"James Lowes was the interim Head Coach, Sinfield has only held the position as DOR at Leeds'"
I remember him not knowing where to sit or which dug out to use, quite unusual for DoR but, we'll bow to your intricate knowledge.
He was certainly on a very fast track form playing Union to DoR at Leeds, may be the elevation in position was a little too quick but, enough to get him back into RL ?
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| Quote ="RickK"A degree is evidence of study, research and knowledge used to create a thesis to evidence the three key elements of the degree. A degree is not about ability or capability of being able to do or a particular task. You can have a masters and still be poop at the actual job.
Sinifield was an exceptional player throughout his RL career.
game as yet he has not shown a natural flair for administration and management and it could be that he does not have coaching ambitions. I'd say as ambassador for the RL and sport a fine example his new career still to prove his worth.'"
Id agree with your last point however the overhaul at Leeds is a huge task and one that was never going to be completed in 18 months, he has however shifted 18 players since 2018 so I would say its a work in progress and shouldn’t be judged solely on last year
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I remember him not knowing where to sit or which dug out to use, quite unusual for DoR but, we'll bow to your intricate knowledge.
He was certainly on a very fast track form playing Union to DoR at Leeds, may be the elevation in position was a little too quick but, enough to get him back into RL ?'"
He was DOR for England from 2016, so didn’t jump straight into the Leeds role, it’s not about intricate knowledge its about basic fact checking, England have come very close to winning a World Cup and won a test series against the Kiwis whilst he was in his role so those calling him a flop are not taking that into account.
The GB tour has been a farce from strart to finish I will admit that
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For balance
https://www.totalrl.com/sinfield-explai ... for-lions/
I totally disagree with Sinfield on this point
”Do we give a jersey away because someone has flown for 24 hours to get here, or do we give a jersey to someone who is the right man for the job?”
No Kev, you decide who’s playing before flying a player half way round the world for nothing.
But he does reiterate he has nothing to do with team selection
“ “I do not play a part in selection – I’ve never been in those selection meetings and I don’t think it’s fair to suggest I am. I never will be, too,”
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I totally disagree with Sinfield on this point
”Do we give a jersey away because someone has flown for 24 hours to get here, or do we give a jersey to someone who is the right man for the job?”
No Kev, you decide who’s playing before flying a player half way round the world for nothing.
But he does reiterate he has nothing to do with team selection
“ “I do not play a part in selection – I’ve never been in those selection meetings and I don’t think it’s fair to suggest I am. I never will be, too,”
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| Quote ="christopher"Where have you looked it up?'"
It's on Wikipedia but I double checked and it on RL Project as well.
[urlhttp://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/coaches/kevin-sinfield/summary.html[/url
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"It's on Wikipedia but I double checked and it on RL Project as well.
[urlhttp://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/coaches/kevin-sinfield/summary.html[/url'"
Then they are both incorrect
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| Quote ="christopher"Then they are both incorrect'"
They both must have not got the memo that James Lowes had been moved up to full time coach with Kev suddenly appearing to be running the show.
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| Why get Handley out there? Total waste of a journey.
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| I don't know I'd say it's good experience in learning how to deal with disappointment, so not entirely a waste of a journey
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| Quote ="RickK"I don't know I'd say it's good experience in learning how to deal with disappointment, so not entirely a waste of a journey'"
He plays for Leeds, should be used to it by now.
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| Scandalous decision to fly Handley all that way just to gather splinters. He did well last season in a poor Leeds side so they should've give the lad a chance to show what he can do at international level instead of bizarrely persisting with a half back on the wing.
I'd sack Bennett for this alone.
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