Well like I said earlier theirs a decent majority of the team putting in the effort and giving it a go, unfortunately the ones who aren’t are in the spine positions. We may as well have played with 12 men all night with what Sutcliffe contributed.

God you just know Sky are going to have LMS as a regular pundit when he retires as they think he’s a ‘character’

I'd take 10th in a heartbeat, and so would you, and your shower.

BBC has Sinfield who has as much charisma as a turd. LMS would do alright if sinfield is the bench mark

Leeds fan Barrie Mcdermott claims Hurrel isn’t playing well because he has to take the ball up from his 20 a lot.

The golden boot and the second best winger in SL are laughing at such a statement

I’d take 10th yea, no problem admitting that. Just wanna know where you think you’d be with an organising hb.

I'd expect us to be around mid table.

TBF their is too much of throw it him as soon as possible and hope for the best. As damaging as Hurrell could be you still have to attract inside defenders otherwise you get what you see so often with 3/4 defenders on him.

I know mate, I’m just having the craic. Look through my posts over the season and I’ve always stated Leeds game plan revolves around throwing it to him. The first game at home we struggled but this game we have learned and because we are so fit we can afford to throw 2 and 3 players at him because we are confident they can get back in the line after the tackle

Yeah fair play, it’s frustrating to watch him ‘used’ because he really could destroy teams if used properly. If he was playing for Saints even though you don’t really need a centre then his tries scored and try assists numbers would be massive. At Leeds he’s attacking outside Brett Ferres who doesn’t give a damn because he knows he’s going at the end of the year, yet still bizarrely gets the full 80 when he’s fit....Donaldson got a sin bin and won’t offer anything special but the difference in effort put in is vast.

Dude. I would swap him for Naiqama in a heart beat and if he was in our team I think he would have an absolute field day.

I think Leeds knew they were not going to win this game after the first quarter and had a dig at a spoiling game thought Thaler joined the spoiling party as well. Saints had to adjust to the loss of the injured Percival, Tai and Smith but managed to get on the bike in the last 10 mins. Must admit Leeds put up some heroic defence at times otherwise Saints would have progressed to the 50 pt mark.

Jackson Hastings, someone who’s actually played there, will tell you otherwise.

A bang average NRL player......we loved him at the Warriors but he was as much a liability as he was popular. Saints seem to have a pretty good balance on both flanks this year, Hurrel would be an unwarranted addition IMHO.

Largely agree. I thought the early lead actually did Saints few favours as they went expansive on a night where their execution wasn't great and while Leeds still had plenty of defensive juice left in the tank. I felt they'd have won more easily had they played with better control. Matters little as they were comfortably the better side either way.

This has happened a few times this season where we have started like a whirlwind then tried to play too fancy and the opposition back in the game.

As you say they need to get the game won then the fancy stuff can come in the last quarter.

Understandably they are missing Roby's experience in the middle.
Smith is doing well for a youngster but they are big boots to fill

Well you're in the minority. According to redvee there isn't a player in any other super league team who would get in this saints side!

I reckon we just got dragged down to the Leeds standard of play, we have played the fancy stuff in some games when not needed but thats seems to be when we have rotated players a lot and lose that fluency in play.

We rested Paulo, Knowles, Roby (Injury) and lost Percival and Tai with Smith played on injured. It was a below par performance by Saints standards but luckily Leeds were not much of an attacking threat.

Who would you suggest, there's not many that would be an upgrade.
Obviously there's other good players out there e.g. Hastings and Austen but Lomax and Fages are on a par with them.
Maybe O'Connor but would you really want to put with his tantrums.

From Hull I wouldn't swap Connor, Kelly, Sneyd and Carlos for any of their Saints counterparts. We also have Josh Jones coming next year who I would rather have than Taia/Peyroux or whatever other second rowers they have.

Don't think thats quite right we mentioned Fifita and Watts being good additions to our forward pack, in the backs there are a couple of others but they are really on par with what we have already. You also have to consider the style of play to integrate into the team.

Lomax is up there with the most overrated show ponies of all time, he is a similar ilk to the likes of Jordan Tansey chris Thorman luke Dorn. Just plays in a good team, if he was at Leeds (this season) or Hull kr we would all be laughing at how poor he is.

Don't think so he's a creative player, 12 tries, 18 try assists, 63 tackle busts, 12 clean breaks the only other player by position who can get anywhere near that is Jackson Hastings but Hastings has a lot of missed tackles and penalties. I wouldn't say Luke Dorn (190 tries) should be on that list of show ponies either.

If he was at Leeds you would see a player taking on the line instead of some of the dumb plays by Myler, I think Lomax would do better than Mylers 2 tries, 6 try assists, 36 tackle busts, 10 clean breaks no matter how poor Leeds are at the moment.

What?

You said the atmosphere at Saints was poor, Hastings did a Q&A on his Instagram with Lussick the other day and one of the questions was the best atmosphere. They both said Saints.