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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"I'd heard on the jungle drums that he'd done his knee again, similar to currie when he came last year, its just not right.
I was amazed he was playing at the start of this year to be honest.'"
Yeah he was rushed back at least a month or so earlier than most ACL returnees and was dropped/rested several games into the season as he was still experiencing pain in his knee. Can’t imagine that’s been solved with the 2 games he had off but Hurrell being injured has meant Watkins has stayed in the team otherwise he’d have lost his place to young Newman....or forced into the 2nd row which he really isn’t suited to.
Any club interested in signing him should be looking at doing a good medical on his knee and that could be a big stumbling block.
Could see Toronto going for him as a big signing even with the fitness risk and has the McDermott connection who was the guy who made him captain at Leeds.
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| Quote ="Fully"Precisely my point - why would you pay out a shedload of cash when you can better use your cap space as it is. If you were able to spend the full cap, he'd be a first teamer with Lyne as cover.'" I'd stick with Lyne and have him as cover
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Yeah he was rushed back at least a month or so earlier than most ACL returnees and was dropped/rested several games into the season as he was still experiencing pain in his knee. Can’t imagine that’s been solved with the 2 games he had off but Hurrell being injured has meant Watkins has stayed in the team otherwise he’d have lost his place to young Newman....or forced into the 2nd row which he really isn’t suited to.
Any club interested in signing him should be looking at doing a good medical on his knee and that could be a big stumbling block.
Could see Toronto going for him as a big signing even with the fitness risk and has the McDermott connection who was the guy who made him captain at Leeds.'"
Toronto is already well served in the centres with Richard Leutele and Chase Stanley. Even if there were no question marks surrounding Kallum Watkins' fitness (which there are), Toronto should be spending big money on a quality half, not a centre, especially if they are promoted to Super League.
Personally, I cannot see Kallum Watkins being signed by a top Super League club, let alone an NRL club.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Could he possibly go to the pre retirement Club of Hull K R. The situation at Leeds seems very =#0000FFSmokey.'"
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The above quote contains incorrect English. Though such failings may be acceptable in Wakefield, lovers of the English language know that the correct word was "they're."'"
Thanks for the heads up, I was going to ask you about Catalan's debacle against Hull FC, but I'm not sure which would be appropriate when saying that their/they're game was embarrassingly poor that day, and maybe having struggled to beat a heavily depleted Wakefield Trinity side through injuries the week before perhaps it took more out of their/they're game than was noticeable at the time, keep up the good work being a senior member of the grammar police you do a sterling job, honestly.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"
Personally, I cannot see Kallum Watkins being signed by a top Super League club, let alone an NRL club.'"
Can’t see an NRL club but wouldn’t be surprised to see a top SL club sign him. Granted they shouldn’t do on current form but history is littered with clubs signing struggling players thinking/hoping they’ll get the best out of him.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The above quote contains incorrect English. Though such failings may be acceptable in Wakefield, lovers of the English language know that the correct word was "they're."'"
Anything to say about your beloved Dragons’ abysmal showing in the Cup? Their/ there/ they’re performance cannot be set aside without your glowing report.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Possibly Saints, their short of a class centre.'"
Atm though, I wouldn't pay him with washers.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The above quote contains incorrect English. Though such failings may be acceptable in Wakefield, lovers of the English language know that the correct word was "they're."'"
=#FF0000Not necessary. Stick to discussing the subject matter please.
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| Quote ="Wanderer"=#FF0000Not necessary. Stick to discussing the subject matter please.'"
The subject being a troll poster trying to bait an actual member of the board by being anal about the incorrect usage of a word when he should have been discussing the release of Watkins from Leeds? That subject matter?
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| I hope his agent isn't trying to get him a gig using a 2019 highlight reel.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The above quote contains incorrect English. Though such failings may be acceptable in Wakefield, lovers of the English language know that the correct word was "they're."'"
Oh, you have crawled out from your hiding place after 4 (four) days of hiding. Nothing to say about your beloved Crapalans getting a spanking, only a snipe about some posters spelling. You have sunk lower than a snakes belly.
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| So sad to see such a skillful player " loose it " , in Kallums case not sure it's his knee or from his previous problem/s a temporary depression this affecting his confidance. Leeds will always want a player at his maximum best, they have a history of moving players if they don't continue to deliver !
I feel for him as he comes across as an honest person. However, he may find it difficult to get another SL club & if so it will be no where near his current salary ! Good luck to the lad, he is after all a rugby league player.
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| He will get a gig on a good wage and has probably already sorted it . Been a great player for Leeds and i for one can see him bouncing back to form once he gets settled at his new club
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"He will get a gig on a good wage and has probably already sorted it.'"
Almost certainly, doubt he agrees to end his contract without his agent putting some feelers out and knowing he’s got a few interested parties. Probably what’s happening with a few other Leeds players at the moment but perhaps they haven’t got the interest from elsewhere to end their deal at Leeds and move on.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I hope his agent isn't trying to get him a gig using a 2019 highlight reel.'"
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| Quote ="Fully"In terms of Super League
Wigan - very likely - replacement for Sarginson - most likely to have/use marquee spot for him particularly if Williams is off
Hull FC - likely - massive overhaul - looking to throw cash at players - may try and release a few players to get him in
Hull KR - possible - McGuire connection - maybe offer a bit more cash but wouldn't get marquee there
Castleford - possible - Daryl Powell connection/Hardaker effect/doesn't have to move far
Huddersfield - possible but think they're likely to be blown out the water
Warrington - i'd say unlikely with their cap situation but you never know
Catalans - unlikely - think living overseas may be too far
Saints - unlikely - think they've better centres at the mo
Wakefield - Very unlikely - don't think they could afford
Salford - Very unlikely - definitely can't afford'"
It’s nothing to do with Wakefield being able to afford him we could do that easily. But why would we pay over the odds for a player who on present form isn’t as good as the three we have? Now we also have Jack Croft who looks to be a SL centre in the making.
It’s not about how much you can afford but what you’re willing to pay and I can’t see many clubs coughing up what I suspect Watkins thinks he’s worth.
I’d pay him the same as Lyne or Arundel and I can’t see him going for that.
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| Watkins was one of the few world class UK players in SL. I really admired him as a player & as a bloke & will be forever grateful he didn't go off to yawnion. To see him in his current form, & not being sure whether he will ever get back to his best, when he should be at his peak, is not enjoyable.
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| Quote ="the artist"they'll be plenty of tape left over'"
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Bit harsh. Wasn't that long ago i would have liked him for us. I think this last injury has hindered his game big time.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Watkins was one of the few world class UK players in SL. I really admired him as a player & as a bloke & will be forever grateful he didn't go off to yawnion. To see him in his current form, & not being sure whether he will ever get back to his best, when he should be at his peak, is not enjoyable.'"
Exactly, considering people like to call ourselves “the rugby league family” and express sadness and well wishes when players suffer those type of serious knee injuries (note reactions to the likes of Manfredi and Johnstone earlier this year) and hope they recover fully from it then it’s been quite interesting (poor/hypocritical more apt) to see the mocking many have given to Watkins on his struggles to recover from his serious injury.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Exactly, considering people like to call ourselves “the rugby league family” and express sadness and well wishes when players suffer those type of serious knee injuries (note reactions to the likes of Manfredi and Johnstone earlier this year) and hope they recover fully from it then it’s been quite interesting (poor/hypocritical more apt)[u to see the mocking many have given to Watkins on his struggles to recover from his serious injury.[/u'"
I think you'll find their/they're/there(sorry jean) are more fans on here that are more sympathetic towards Watkins than have mocked him and I'm sure most on here wish him all the best at his new club, maybe playing in a side what are playing better than Leeds is all he needs to kick start his season.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Exactly, considering people like to call ourselves “the rugby league family” and express sadness and well wishes when players suffer those type of serious knee injuries (note reactions to the likes of Manfredi and Johnstone earlier this year) and hope they recover fully from it then it’s been quite interesting (poor/hypocritical more apt) to see the mocking many have given to Watkins on his struggles to recover from his serious injury.'"
You never stop stirring the pot do you. Watkins has received in general a similar amount of sympathy too the two players you mention. That said there is one crucial difference that you've missed in your latest attempt to be outraged on behalf of the Rhinos. Manfredi and Johnstone are both youngish players who are yet to hit their true potential, Watkins has had a brilliant career that has unfortunately ended in a way that he'd rather it hadn't but he still has a sack full of medals and a full career behind him so lets not get too precious.
Surely even you can see the difference and thus its obvious why the two you mention probably got a tad more sympathy
You need to take another break you really do.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"You never stop stirring the pot do you. Watkins has received in general a similar amount of sympathy too the two players you mention.'"
He did upon receiving the injury, since his return it’s been different because he hasn’t been able to recover his form like others have.
Quote ="Fishermanscap"That said there is one crucial difference that you've missed in your latest attempt to be outraged on behalf of the Rhinos. Manfredi and Johnstone are both youngish players who are yet to hit their true potential, Watkins has had a brilliant career that has unfortunately ended in a way that he'd rather it hadn't but he still has a sack full of medals and a full career behind him so lets not get too precious.
Surely even you can see the difference and thus its obvious why the two you mention probably got a tad more sympathy
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Nothing about “being outraged on behalf of the Rhinos” as I include some Leeds fans in the ones who have mocked his struggles, but you jumped the gun thinking I only meant opposition fans and was the one getting outraged.
As for full career the guy did his injury just 2 months after his 27 birthday, just because he’s picked up some trophies early that’s not a full career at all, he was only just hitting his prime years and just as much hadn’t yet his true potential as you say about others.
The difference has naff all to do with age, nor should it that’s a dumb reason because if the exact same thing befalls Johnstone on his next return I’m sure you’ll get sections of the RL fan base doing the same thing.
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