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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Lenners owns a stadium..
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I look forward to seeing the Wigan Warriors playing at either of these 2 grounds Edge Hall Road or Central Park Sports College in SL for 2019,But i'm guessing that you will be still paying rent at the DW
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"You heard of Edge Hall Road??
You heard of Central Park Sports College??
Lenners owns plenty of assets, may just be selling Edge Hall Road to buy another stadium quite close to the DW one.'"
What you really mean is Wigan own a training ground as that’s what Orrell is used for. Think you’ll find others also own their own training complexes. Also your new trading facilities aren’t going to be a stadium so no he isn’t buying a stadium, he is AGAIN taking on the lease on this new training facility.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"What you really mean is Wigan own a training ground as that’s what Orrell is used for. Think you’ll find others also own their own training complexes. Also your new trading facilities aren’t going to be a stadium so no he isn’t buying a stadium, he is AGAIN taking on the lease on this new training facility.'"
Edge Hall is a stadium (well it was when used in the RU premiership) and the sale of that will enable the purchase of another stadium.
You mopped all the water out of your hut yet..
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Edge Hall is a stadium (well it was when used in the RU premiership) and the sale of that will enable the purchase of another stadium.
You mopped all the water out of your hut yet..
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Yes thanks. And again you aren’t moving to a stadium and it’s an embarrassing counter argument when you have to use an old small stadium you use for training and try sell it as “we own a stadium” in comparison to a genuine stadium of a rival who use it for matches.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Yes thanks. And again you aren’t moving to a stadium and it’s an embarrassing counter argument when you have to use an old small stadium you use for training and try sell it as “we own a stadium” in comparison to a genuine stadium of a rival who use it for matches.'"
We have a state of the art 25.000 all-seater that is for our main home fixtures.
We have a stadium in Orrel that Lenners has been offered multiple millions from the construction industry for the land to re-develop into housing.
Wigan council would not pass the building of a new stadium in the borough due to the two major ones we already have.
We own a stadium and we are in a very good position to make lots of cash from its sale..
Get over it..
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"We have a state of the art 25.000 all-seater that is for our main home fixtures.'"
No Wigan Athletic have a 25k stadium that they let you use providing it doesn’t clash with their fixtures that weekend or in the whole of June when they relay THEIR pitch. How come you’ve never switched games to Edge Hill Road when this has happened?
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"No Wigan Athletic have a 25k stadium that they let you use providing it doesn’t clash with their fixtures that weekend or in the whole of June when they relay THEIR pitch. How come you’ve never switched games to Edge Hill Road when this has happened?'"
No a 25000 all-seater, no longer owned by Whelan but sold to a Hong Kong Investment group that has stated the sale of the club and stadium is only going to be completed because the Warriors are a massive reason for the deal, and without them, there would be too much risk to their investment.
Demanding every Warriors home game is played at the stadium hence the new pitch that is expected to last many years without replacement every season.
Yet we still have our own stadium to sell..
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"No a 25000 all-seater, no longer owned by Whelan but sold to a Hong Kong Investment group that has stated the sale of the club and stadium is only going to be completed because the Warriors are a massive reason for the deal, and without them, there would be too much risk to their investment.
Demanding every Warriors home game is played at the stadium hence the new pitch that is expected to last many years without replacement every season.
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Yes and why do you think they want the Warriors to stay there, because they make money off them, money that could stay in the Warriors pockets if they had their own place.
“They pay a stadium hire fee of 10 per cent of their match ticket revenues to the Stadium”
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Yes and why do you think they want the Warriors to stay there, because they make money off them, money that could stay in the Warriors pockets if they had their own place.
“They pay a stadium hire fee of 10 per cent of their match ticket revenues to the Stadium”'"
Yeah, nice one without stadium upkeep costs etc..
Lenners is a winner winner....you know the rest..
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Yeah, nice one without stadium upkeep costs etc..
Lenners is a winner winner....you know the rest..
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Yeah you’ll have less costs elsewhere but losing out on a percentage of your ticket sales and won’t be making money elsewhere that you would with your own stadium.
If lodging at football grounds was the better option financially then most teams would do it.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Yeah you’ll have less costs elsewhere but losing out on a percentage of your ticket sales and won’t be making money elsewhere that you would with your own stadium.
If lodging at football grounds was the better option financially then most teams would do it.'"
We ain't most teams...
We make good money from other revenues.
We couldn't have a new stadium in the Wigan Borough if we had billions.
There is no space for a new ground in central Wigan and the council would never approve planning,
Facts, that's all..
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"We ain't most teams...
We make good money from other revenues.
We couldn't have a new stadium in the Wigan Borough if we had billions.
There is no space for a new ground in central Wigan and the council would never approve planning,
Facts, that's all..
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Not facts just excuses, and Wigan usually make a decent sized loss financially whereas the likes of Leeds make a profit financially. In 2017 Wigan reported a loss of around £600k after a title winning season, Leeds in 2017 off the back of a poor 2016 on the field and training ground damage recorded a profit of around £370k and this year up to £600k. Wigan usually report a loss, Leeds nearly always a profit.
They are facts and very significant ones.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Not facts just excuses, and Wigan usually make a decent sized loss financially whereas the likes of Leeds make a profit financially. In 2017 Wigan reported a loss of around £600k after a title winning season, Leeds in 2017 off the back of a poor 2016 on the field and training ground damage recorded a profit of around £370k and this year up to £600k. Wigan usually report a loss, Leeds nearly always a profit.
They are facts and very significant ones.'"
Suddenly the sale of our stadium will sort that out..
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Suddenly the sale of our stadium will sort that out..'"
No it won’t.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"No it won’t.'"
It will..
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| 1996 Leeds RLFC, nearly bankrupt nearly selling ground and having to move to Elland road, no major trophys for decades, club completely on its knees.
2018 Leeds Rhinos RLFC best supported club in the Game (when running at full stadium capacity)most successful club in the game, 20 years of producing a conveyor belt of junior players, most profitable club biggest turnover, own their own stadium and when this phase of development is complete will have the best stadium in the british game (either code) bar none predominatly for RL use.
All down to one mans adminstration.
No need for poles or debate. Facts speak for themselves.
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"It will..
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The sale of any stadium will only increase the income revenue briefly. Unless Wigan can increase their revenue, they will always post a loss. They can't sell assets every year to make a profit.
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| Flawed debates all round on this.
Hetherington is a CEO (full time employee), the rest actually own and Chair their respective clubs.
At the end of the day, does it actually matter?
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"At the end of the day, does it actually matter?'"
Given who the OP was, clearly not - and yet people bite.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Given who the OP was, clearly not - and yet people bite.'"
none of this matters, nor does anything on here matter, its a forum for discussion and debate, and a bit of fun and enjoyment, well that's what its supposed to be.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Given who the OP was, clearly not - and yet people bite.'"
Nothing to bite to on this occasion. Was a question put forward without any name calling, belittling etc. and people have been giving their views, as is the point of a discussion and debate forum. “What’s it matter?”...we’ll nothing in reality but you can say that about any thread, what will be the point of a league table prediction before the start of the new season? Nothing really as it won’t tell us who finishes where but we’ll still have a thread about it.
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| I can't imagine many other chairmen securing £20m through its City Council.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Nothing to bite to on this occasion.'"
There are 12 clubs in SL; the question limited the answer to only 5, so it's deliberately provocative.
And in the end, almost all fans would choose their own club - it's what we do.
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| Quote ="bren2k"There are 12 clubs in SL; the question limited the answer to only 5, so it's deliberately provocative.'"
No it’s not, he doesn’t have to include every single one to debate it if he doesn’t think others are in the running. If you or someone else think another name should be mentioned then mention it and debate it, don’t just say it’s a pointless debate because one you wanted isn’t on the original list. If someone started a thread asking who the best prop or centre was in SL should they list each and every single one or who they think the best 5/6 are?
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