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| First half was hard work, super league has become so dire.
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| Cas haven’t taken the opportunities we have had to make Wigan’s defence work on their line. Almost every time we’ve been in the attacking 20 we’ve come up with a silly mistake or a wrong option (kicking on the second tackle, dropping the ball etc).
Lucky to only be 7 down in my view. If the attack clicks in the second half, Wigan will regret not putting more points on the board.
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| So typical, echoes of last years grand final with the unforced errors from cas. Everyone moans about no new teams on the trophy, teams like cas play at being a big team, they finish high up the table, beat the best teams in the league, but they never actually manage to, you know, win a major final!
Cas fans are learning a profound lesson tonight.
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| Discipline....
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| Can't believe Cas have rocked up with last year's gf game plan and error count. What [ido[/i Powell and Sheridan do to prepare them?
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| Sean ' cheating ' there , he was tackled , then stepped over the defender and played the ball , penalty to Cas
Time this was stopped
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| Embarrassing 2 there
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| Cas seem to be kicking a bit too early in attack as if they are impatient rather than working through their full sets
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| Quote ="the artist"Cas seem to be kicking a bit too early in attack as if they are impatient rather than working through their full sets'"
Difference between having Roberts playing instead of Trueman. Roberts kicks early. Trueman will attack the line. Big miss for us tonight.
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| Just been a carbon copy of the GF last year.a team that know what it takes to win a big game grinding their way to victory.
Dire game though, sums up SL as a whole these days.hope the final is much better.
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| So poor from Cas. Yet again, we are so poor in a big game.
The Cas players seem to think that we need to do different things in knock out rugby than we do all year (let’s be honest, we were lucky to win last year’s semi against St Helens). The number of errors due to stupid mistakes early in the tackle count, particularly in Wigan’s 20, is something we don’t see from Cas until it gets to a knock out game. Poor kicks on the first tackle, knock ons on the zero tackle and forward passes on the first tackle. We just seem to lose all composure at the most vital of times.
Again too, our best players go missing and seem to be overawed by these kind of games. I didn’t see anything from McShane or Gale, who should be directing the attack and maintaining the game-plan.
Having said that, take nothing away from Wigan. They were better in every single aspect of the game. From minute 1 to minute 80. For all Cas’ ineptitude, Wigan were excellent. Great discipline, great defence, excellent in collision and clinical in attack when they got the chance.
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| Wigan know how to win . They lay on that extra second and sneak that extra yard when defending.Thaler has allowed them to do it all game. Don't think anyone could say Cas deserved the win? But wasn't a great game to watch but if you were a Wigan fan you wouldn't care.
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| Gale is hopeless when it matters.
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| Did Cas complete a 'set of six' in the 2nd half ?? Don't think they did, they were lucky to get nil. Was looking forward to this game, what an anti climax !
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| Pretty much went how I expected although wasn’t quite expecting a zero for Cas.
For all the complaints about too many ex-forwards coaching in SL and can’t we have more HB’s coaching. Well in the last 160 mins of playoff rugby, Powell who has been lauded for his teams play has seen his team score a mere 6 points (and they were the scruffiest 6 points in GF history with 30 secs left) whilst his opponents have racked up 38. Don’t know why people were saying Cas had learnt from last year, there was no evidence of it until they faced this fixture and you got the true answer tonight.
Fully expect Wigan to continue the Wigan/Leeds stranglehold next week in the GF and make it 11 wins out of the last 12 years between the two teams at the big boys table whilst the kiddy table looks on enviously.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Did Cas complete a 'set of six' in the 2nd half ?? Don't think they did, they were lucky to get nil. Was looking forward to this game, what an anti climax !'"
Don’t worry, you can watch Leigh miner rangers under 16s v Fev
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Don’t worry, you can watch Leigh miner rangers under 16s v Fev
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Fev by 32???
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Pretty much went how I expected although wasn’t quite expecting a zero for Cas.
For all the complaints about too many ex-forwards coaching in SL and can’t we have more HB’s coaching. Well in the last 160 mins of playoff rugby, Powell who has been lauded for his teams play has seen his team score a mere 6 points (and they were the scruffiest 6 points in GF history with 30 secs left) whilst his opponents have racked up 38. Don’t know why people were saying Cas had learnt from last year, there was no evidence of it until they faced this fixture and you got the true answer tonight.
Fully expect Wigan to continue the Wigan/Leeds stranglehold next week in the GF and make it 11 wins out of the last 12 years between the two teams at the big boys table whilst the kiddy table looks on enviously.'"
Not sure it’s the coaching to be honest. I’m pretty sure Powell has not told our players to screw up on the first tackle every time we get a set on the opposition line.
The problem is we have players who can look like superstars in games that don’t matter, but lose composure when it does.
At the moment we don’t have a player who can pull us through these big games. When it’s comes to the crunch, having the likes of Sinfield, McGuire, O’Loughlin, Tomkins or Leuluai (and others in years gone by) has been the difference between winning and losing big games. We don’t have one, hence the inclination to underperform when it really matters.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Don’t worry, you can watch Leigh miner rangers under 16s v Fev
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King James'"
I know, I am going to the game and looking forward to it, thanks.
Where were you on here last night, did you enjoy Saints v Warrington. I did, was a great game.
But the thing I don't understand is, you don't seem able to comment on it....why not love ?
You can 'dish it out' but you cannot take it. I can 'do both'...but not you.
Have you visited the Warrington forum, you have your own topic.
Consider yourself an 'F - list celebrity' !
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"At the moment we don’t have a player who can pull us through these big games. When it’s comes to the crunch, having the likes of Sinfield, McGuire, O’Loughlin, Tomkins or Leuluai (and others in years gone by) has been the difference between winning and losing big games. We don’t have one, hence the inclination to underperform when it really matters.'"
I think this is more the issue, there are 6 games a year of importance in the Northern Hemisphere club game and the rest are filler.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"I know, I am going to the game and looking forward to it, thanks.
Where were you on here last night, did you enjoy Saints v Warrington. I did, was a great game.
But the thing I don't understand is, you don't seem able to comment on it....why not love ?
You can 'dish it out' but you cannot take it. I can 'do both'...but not you.
Have you visited the Warrington forum, you have your own topic.
Consider yourself an 'F - list celebrity' !
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I enjoyed the game between 2 full time teams who can field 17 players, a reserve team, an academy team and scholarship teams. 2 teams who also own their own stadium and 2 teams who won’t be in league one next season because of a 20 point deduction for breaking the rules. Sorry I didn’t comment, I was away for the night with the family In the lakes
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| Quote ="ducknumber1"I think this is more the issue, there are 6 games a year of importance in the Northern Hemisphere club game and the rest are filler.'"
I’m not sure I completely agree with you to such an extreme. To get to most of those games there’s the need to be consistent to some extent.
To me it highlights the importance of big game players. Those who can bring out their best performances when it really matters. And they exist in all sports, not just RL.
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| I forgot to add “can afford to field reserve teams, academy teams” etc
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Not sure it’s the coaching to be honest. I’m pretty sure Powell has not told our players to screw up on the first tackle every time we get a set on the opposition line.'"
Obviously he didn’t tell them that, but whatever he did tell them they didn’t follow and execute or come close too. That has to fall a bit on the coach as well as players. That he wouldn’t have told them to screw up the first tackle every time you had a set on their line yet they did only raises rightful questions & criticism of his coaching ability at the biggest occasion, it doesn’t absolve him from it. If a one off then fair enough that can happen but he has a poor record in crucial games.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Don’t worry, you can watch Leigh miner rangers under 16s v Fev
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How do you have the nerve to post here again
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