Where my wife was born in Millom.

How did you miss it?

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I reckon we let him down not voting enough for him.
He is a legend of the game there is no doubt.

MacBull you would do well to go look at your record books for your own club before derailing a thread about Neil Fox. He did a pretty important job at Bradford, as did his brother.

But just to put it into perspective, Neil scored 6,220 points in his 24 year career.
Kevin Sinfield (who is a great player with a great career) scored 3967 in 18 years. He'd have to keep playing for another 10 years at the same rate to reach Neil's record.
And tries were 3 points back then.

He deserves the road.

Neil Fox probably lost votes because he wasn’t a ‘celeb’.

I suspect the reason Fox is not on the statue is clear from the attendances at Wigan vs attendances at Wakefield. It was put to a popular vote (stupid idea IMHO) so the most popular clubs vote for their own rather than trying to make an impartial, objective opinion. Also added to the fact that Sky keep wetting themselves referring to "the great Billy Boston" every time they are at a Wigan home game makes his name familiar to the newer generations who never saw him play. Fox and others don't get the same adoration from the media hence their achievements are not as widely acknowledged.

I think that Fox's enviable record which will NEVER be broken is something that should be acknowledged on the statue dedicated to greats of rugby league.

It was an online vote 6 years ago.

While I can acknowledge the rise of the Silver Surfers the plain facts are that the web is far better utilised by a younger audience and you'll always get a greater number of people able to recall something that happened 20 years ago over events from 30 years further back.

It was always going to be weighted to favour the likes of Offiah and Hanley rather than the Fox's or Clive Sullivan, for example. It's the same reason that we at Saints have statue of Keiron Cunningham rather than one of Vollenhoven or Alf Ellaby to name just two.

The fact that Murphy, Ashton and Boston who all played in the same era as Neil Fix from the late 50s to the early 70s were picked ahead of him is something of a head scratcher though

Possibly because I don't live in Wakefield or Wigan. I wouldn't touch the poison Mail with a ten foot pole. And I don't take the Telegraph.
What I don't understand is where the candidates came from. Was there a set list, or could you just vote for whoever you liked? Neil Fox is probably the greatest player to play the game in my lifetime. Arguably the greatest player of either code this country has produced since the war. And yet he was omitted for a Johnnie come lately like Offiah.

Quote ="majorhound"Possibly because I don't live in Wakefield or Wigan. I wouldn't touch the poison Mail with a ten foot pole. And I don't take the Telegraph. What I don't understand is where the candidates came from. Was there a set list, or could you just vote for whoever you liked? Neil Fox is probably the greatest player to play the game in my lifetime. Arguably the greatest player of either code this country has produced since the war. And yet he was omitted for a Johnnie come lately like Offiah.'" The BBC also ran features on each of the nominees in the run up to the vote, here is the Gus Risman one as an example: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/19275049

Quote ="majorhound"Possibly because I don't live in Wakefield or Wigan. I wouldn't touch the poison Mail with a ten foot pole. And I don't take the Telegraph. What I don't understand is where the candidates came from. Was there a set list, or could you just vote for whoever you liked? Neil Fox is probably the greatest player to play the game in my lifetime. Arguably the greatest player of either code this country has produced since the war. And yet he was omitted for a Johnnie come lately like Offiah.'" The BBC also ran features on each of the nominees in the run up to the vote, here is the Gus Risman one as an example: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/19275049

Not our fault you're old and nostalgic.

Yes he did hence why I said he was ex Bradford northern.

That donut vastman’s the one calling people losers.

You’d do well to read threads before mouthing off knobrot.

What's my age or nostalgia got to do with it? Boston, Ashton and Murphy were all contemporaries of Neil's, they're on he isn't. I'd have put Ellery in front of Offiah, so I'm not that nostalgic. I'd have said he is the second greatest player I've ever seen. Come to that where's Jonathan Davies? He scored a remarkable try at Wembley in 1994.
As someone else has pointed out, there are three ex Wigan players there, and Wigan are one of the best supported teams. So as usual in RL it's not how good you are but who you play for that really counts. BTW I don't support Wakey. I think I'm pretty objective in selecting the great players I've seen. If I wasn't Deryck Fox would be up there in my nominations!

Why do you feel the need to be so abusive?







I don't know which is more disappointing, your foul mouth tirade, or a Moderator just letting it go?

It's quite a sad, pathetically bitter obsession he's got DA. I can only assume he's still at school, but if not that's all the more embarrassing.

You forgot something - throughout most of his career it was only 3 points for a try! That really puts it into perspective when compared to Sinfield and others.

No one will beat what he did, they may be better players in some respects but no one will get those figures imo.

Him not being on is criminal but public vote have a habit of producing results like we got. It’s pure demographics and the passage of time.

That said the Murphy one baffles me - dirty player and not an especially gracefull man off the field either.

How does Gus Risman fit into this theory? He played for clubs currently less well-supported than Wakey.

I thought the choices of players had something to do with their exploits at Wembley. Certainly Offiah and Murphy made an impact there.

I remember Fox scoring at Wembley but did he make as much of an impact there as the others?

Winning a Lance Todd Trophy and scoring a record number of points in a final would suggest he made an impact.

the rest of RL didn't agree, get over it.

Actually, the comment I thought was yours was CherryandWhite..... I apologies.

I'm sure he's over it he's just voicing his opinion, get over it

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You get all offended when someone calls you a loser and then you call someone a 'knobrot'.

Nobody needs to show you up as a loser, you do that yourself.

And nothing whatsoever to do with how good a player Neil was. Not only a good player, but he gave full value. He played through three decades. At the end of his career in 1978, I watched him play for Bradford at Odsal. I was on the Rooley Avenue terrace. Second half, every time Bradford got a play the ball near the posts, there was Neil at AHB. And on about four occasions he passed to a receiver on his left. On the fifth occasion he dummied left, and literally walked in under the sticks. Class. He began his career as a goal kicking centre, who could score tries and put his winger in for tries. And then he moved into the pack, when being a RL forward meant not just running with the ball, but scrummaging for it too. And he shone there. His career record alone perhaps shouldn't qualify him to be on the plinth, but his feats at the stadium. Lance Todd winner and record points scorer, appeared in three finals surely do. Letting fans vote on something like this reflects badly on the game, especially when someone like Murphy can be honoured in such a way.

Shaun Edwards' omission is worse than Fox's IMO.

11 Wembley appearances, 9 wins



Played the 1990 final with a broken hand, then fractured his eye socket and cheekbone in the 9th minute and played the whole game. He should have his own statue.