I'm ok with it not being a penalty try as there is a bit of doubt there with Richardson's presence but fully agree on it being a sin bin, that was an easy decision to make. The guy above saying there was no contact needs to visit his optician.

If that was nt a penalty try's then we may as well scrap the penalty try option. Widnes scored straight after so it did not really matter, but that was a penalty try, he would have scored if he was not obstructed.

It was a dive worthy of a Premier league footballer.
He had over run the ball and a finger tip on the hip and he tumbles over.

Then a clear head shot to grace and no card at all.

If it was the other way around then you’d all be saying the opposite, there’s zero contact. If Heremaia wanted to he could have ran for the ball and scored. Instead he threw himself to the ground, never in a million years a penalty. Peyroux literally doesn’t touch him if you watch it again.

You've just tripped yourself up by admitting Heremaia could've gotten to the ball, your lame excuse is that he didn't want to.

He over ran the ball, his feet were out of play before he took a tumble

God the level of delusion in St Helens is strong this year

And the feet first from Marsh during Morgan’s second try. Also thought there were Fozzard style high knees from Wellington before Whitley’s try too ...

I think as this thread is proving, Saints were never onto a winner on this one. I think the “I’m sick of talking about Ben Barba” from the commentary team summed it up.

Are you completely devoid of any sense? You clearly can’t read as I said he chose to play for a penalty by throwing himself to the ground. Anyone with any sense would realise that’s because he felt he couldn’t get to the ball so therefore played for a penalty (he could have got to it if he’d just ran to the ball).

So he could get to the ball but he decided he couldn't based on it sitting up perfectly in the in goal...ok then. I presume you know he felt he couldn't get to it based on him telling you.

I agree that earlier in this thread people were laying it on thick with saying everything was against Widnes when it clearly wasn't but Peryoux clearly put a hand on Heremaia. Trying to say the Widnes player chose to dive is pathetic.

As a Saints fan I would happily agree to that. I think what others are trying to say is that Heremaia made the most of the contact as he had over run the ball (and that’s why it should never even have been talked about as a penalty try) but the contact meant it was always going to be a yellow.

The most disappointing thing for me is we have an exciting young talent in Richardson whose really coming into his own in an area England are desperate for a superstar in and he barely gets a mention with all the ref scrutiny again

One of two things happened, either, Heremaia thinks he can’t get the ball so throws himself to the ground to play for a penalty or he falls by accident. Either way, there is no contact and he falls over the dead ball line. Peyroux didn’t help himself because he made no attempt to go for the ball either but that doesn’t change the fact there was no contact at all. I’ve got no complaints with the refereeing decisions though as we did get a fair bit of luck but the anti-saints agenda some have is frustrating. The commentating today was so one sided it was a joke.

Sthelens win. So Leeds fans like theprinter go into meltdown. Wow. Embarassing. Calm down junior it’s only one game!

Regards

King James

Yep discussing an incident from a game and giving an opinion is "a meltdown"

weak trolling

Yes I,m quite surprised with "The Printer" usually a good poster but a bit off kilter these days.

Why? Because imo something was a foul and the referee agreed.

Fozzard style forearm from LMS that went unpunished when he raised his arm/elbow and ted the young widnes kid, Watts got sent off last year for less against Wigan and it was that dirty barsteward MM whom most agreed deserved what he got for reckless coming in as he did.

I,m talking about your general posts and not the one match incident today.

What's the problem?

Just watched the replay this afternoon the Marsh incident on Morgan should have been a penalty try. The right knee of Marsh goes straight into the neck and lower jaw of Morgan, hope the disciplinary pick it up, but it will probably end up as a caution.

So by your reasoning Sam Wilde should have also been given a penalty Try as he was tackled around the head by Barba in the act of going in for the try and would of scored if not for Barba taking his head off and using Wildes neck to turn him onto his back.
I also watched the replay and there was nothing in it from Marsh so stop trying to justify a terrible call from the video ref in favour of your team.

Conveniently ignored by all barring one or two of us neutrals, thought that was a shocking decision, not mentioned by anyone in the commentary, no mention by the officials.
We talk about player welfare and head high tackles yet the tackling round the neck in the game is getting more prevalent, it's worse than a single punch IMHO (which more often misses the target), that Goodwin one last week in the CC was despicable, comes around the back of the player, grabs him around the neck and then throws him to the ground by the neck, could have damaged his spine so easily and the ref did absolutely nothing and the spineless disciplinary saw nothing wrong in it. I used to love (legally) hurting my opponent in the tackle BITD but the way the game has gone with the upper body grabbing and using necks as a lever it's sickening.

For the most part up top tackling doesn't even stop the offload which is why tackling in the traditional manner was supposedly moved away from, yet in actual fact it's still proven to be more effective at stopping/reducing the chances of an offload AND importantly not allowing a forward particularly to keep driving another 5-10m with players hanging on. It's hilarious (not) to watch a big guy keep making metres until someone actually tackles him around the legs, 4 players to do what one-two could have done and still the ball is often offloaded leaving defences 2-3 players short.

Anyway, in short, Widnes got f####d over.

Goodwin did nothing of the sort, you are blatantly fabricating in your own head.

He hits him round the shoulder, never a penalty.

Well no, watch the replay again first point of contact was NOT head or neck, yes there was some leverage involved in getting him on his back. But surely Barba’s priority was to stop the ball from being grounded, I don’t think for a second his priority or intention was to strangle or rip someone’s head off.
If you think the tackle was illegal or dangerous then this will be picked up by the disciplinary today.