1 - And lost that SF
2 - Won the final but lost every game afterwards and went out first week of the playoffs

Cas this year started resting a few in the final weeks of the season but didn't help in the GF.

John was deliberate, I'll give you gauge. Is that your new thing? Spelling mistakes?

Three players missing, hence why I put the word effectively in there. Would Margalet be in your first choice 17 anyway? Admittedly I do like McIlorum and he will make a difference.

Faraimo has never played in snow either. Judging by Mead's tackle attempt for Faraimo's try you would be forgiven for assuming he had never played before in any weather conditions.

As I said. I wouldn't read much into it. I doubt it is much of a guide for what is to come, but it was a pretty miserable performance from Catalans.

Have you seen the highlights on Catalans youtube channel Jean?

Looks like Fouad Yaha has spent the off-season watching old Peter Kay dvds. He has the "dad run" almost perfect.

Don't you dare speak ill of the French Billy Boston.

Quote ="Towns88"Don't you dare speak ill of the French Billy Boston.'" Sneyd just kind of walks over and tackles him. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOM4SHhxVxo

Quote ="Towns88"Don't you dare speak ill of the French Billy Boston.'" Sneyd just kind of walks over and tackles him. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOM4SHhxVxo

Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Sneyd just kind of walks over and tackles him. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOM4SHhxVxo'"

Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Sneyd just kind of walks over and tackles him. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOM4SHhxVxo'"

Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Sneyd just kind of walks over and tackles him. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOM4SHhxVxo'" Looks like he`s in slow motion there, i know he was a big lad for a winger last season but he looks seriously out of shape both in the way he moves and looks..

Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Sneyd just kind of walks over and tackles him. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOM4SHhxVxo'" Looks like he`s in slow motion there, i know he was a big lad for a winger last season but he looks seriously out of shape both in the way he moves and looks..

Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Sneyd just kind of walks over and tackles him. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOM4SHhxVxo'" Almost Wellens-esque, that turn of pace shown by the French lad

Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Sneyd just kind of walks over and tackles him. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOM4SHhxVxo'" Almost Wellens-esque, that turn of pace shown by the French lad

Can't read too much into that game tbh. Most of the tries were scored from bad defensive errors which you'd assume would be fixed up in an SL game.

Come on now lets not get carried away.

most tries scored are from bad defensive errors in super league if your a fan of the team that got beat

I'm not a fan of either team but the errors for those tries shouldn't happen in an SL game.

it was sarcasm, when a team loses, most of the time, fans will have a reason why!

I agree, can't remember the last time I saw a SL game and there was an error that led to a try or a piece of soft defending.



Tbf. Catalans will be disappointed with Paea's try, that was really poor defending. Obviously the Griffin try should never be scored either. The defending wasn't great for the Faraimo try, but it was still a decent move with a lovely tap on by Connor, and he is a big boy. Talanoa's was a good try, and Down's was nice work by Sneyd to spot the unset defence and a nice line run.

On the other side, their first try shouldn't be conceded with that many defenders around. Their second was a try you see all the time in SL.

I look forward to a Hull KR defensive masterclass when we play though.

Oh sorry I forgot, i'm not allowed to comment on a game involving Hull FC because it may be construed as being bias.





I would hope that when the season starts we wont make as many defensive errors as there was in that game or else it will be one hell of a long season. However, I wouldn't read too much into a performance in a friendly but that's just me. I'm not that precious

We won't have much of a guide as to who will be a good candidate for silverware until the end of round 11. Everybody has to play everybody else.

The only complication is that Catalans' performances are usually more positively effected by playing in France than other teams' performances are effected by playing at home.

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Comment away, I dont really mind. I agree that some of the defending was soft and that we cant read much into it. But you seem to think that in SL all defences are tip top and you need to do something amazing to score a try. You really dont. And I include Hull's defence in that.

League Leaders - St Helens
Grand Final Winners - Hull FC. Harry Sunderland Trophy - Albert Kelly.
Challenge Cup Winners - Castleford Tigers. Lance Todd Trophy - Grant Millington.

Man of Steel - Luke Gale.
Young Player of the Year - Jacob Trueman.
Top Tryscorer - Ben Barba.
Coach of the Year - Justin Holbrook.

This one hurts. Had we not gone into liquidation he would probably have been our starting half by now. And the future he has looks very bright indeed.

Yes I do. Thanks for pointing that out.

Looks like he might start the season as our first-choice 6 this year.

It’s hard to tell how this season will pan out as injuries and suspensions will inevitably play their part.

Leeds and Cas won’t perform as well as they did last season IMO, with other teams below improving.

Saints are the favourites for the top and Hull will be there or thereabouts. Wire will improve enough to make the 8 but not the 4.

See top 8 as Saints, Hull, Cas, Leeds, Wigan, Wakefield, Warrington and Hudds.

I can see Wigan/Wire gunning for the cup if the season doesn’t pan out the way they wanted in the league.

It's interesting because a lot of people kept saying last year that Leeds weren't performing well (and we arguably weren't) even though we were 2nd for a lot of it.
We've still got plenty of room for improvement performance wise from last years regular season.

Definitely. Perhaps we're due a season where we play well when it least matters and the trophies go elsewhere. As opposed to 2016 when we didn't play well at all and last year when we played as you've described.